 Unexplainable sudden poop
#366771 - 09/18/2012 05:28 PM |
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Whenever I walk Logan it is very structured....he walks next to me or behind me and not allowed to even sniff anything. When I release him in certain places he can sniff, mark or poop. I have the same exact protocol when I jog with him or bike him.
BUT....when I bike him, every now and then, we can be going at an easy jog or worse yet ambling and he suddenly with NO warning, stops to poop. It is not an emergency poop (no soft stools), he gets ample time to poop during the run when I stop with him. I just don't get it!
The worst part is that its DANGEROUS with NO warning...he nearly wrecked me in front of a van today. When he stops he STOPS...prong collar makes no difference and it whips me around every time. I have good reflexes. I lifted his front feet off the ground and scolded him....not something I ever do but he nearly killed us! I want to know what to do about this.
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#366777 - 09/18/2012 06:35 PM |
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Well, all else aside: Exercise stimulates peristalsis. (Walking will have a far more manageable effect than, say, running.)
Do you have a good mental schedule of how his poop relates to his meal times? (A simple journal will show this pattern, if not.)
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#366781 - 09/18/2012 06:53 PM |
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I don't think I'd scold or correct for this if I'm running a single dog and could stop easily... I mean, you can, but it seems unfair. To me. Because the dog doesn't have much control of this bodily function if he is running hard. Dogs can be trained to poop on the run, but if you are running one dog- that is really hard to train.
Watch for signs- I had a musher point this out to me. Dog slowing down, hunched back, swinging the back legs out a bit more, tail held out or more upright, dog looking back. Good signs you need to stop and let the dog eliminate or be prepared for a sudden halt. Slightly maddening, I know, but the dog isn't trying to misbehave.
When you gotta go, you gotta go.
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#366782 - 09/18/2012 07:09 PM |
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He will rarely ever poop in the yard. He waits until we leave and go for a walk or bike ride. It can about any time from noon on, just whenever I take him...*usually* its about midday I always feed him about 11pm. There's a reason I feed him once and at that time btw.
Now I actually recall: him suddenly stopping and pooping on the sidewalk when I was just walking him before...there's isn't much I can do to correct aside from dragging him (he really won't move). If I catch him soon enough, before he stops I can run him to a better spot... sometimes its like he just wants to crap there and he won't in the usual place once we get there then wants to poop as soon as we head back. Super stubborn dog.
I work from home and need him quiet while I work, now that its cooler I have been having to bike him in addition to fetch before work and therefore resurfacing the poop issue.
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#366783 - 09/18/2012 07:15 PM |
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I don't think I'd scold or correct for this if I'm running a single dog and could stop easily... I mean, you can, but it seems unfair. To me. Because the dog doesn't have much control of this bodily function if he is running hard. Dogs can be trained to poop on the run, but if you are running one dog- that is really hard to train.
Watch for signs- I had a musher point this out to me. Dog slowing down, hunched back, swinging the back legs out a bit more, tail held out or more upright, dog looking back. Good signs you need to stop and let the dog eliminate or be prepared for a sudden halt. Slightly maddening, I know, but the dog isn't trying to misbehave.
When you gotta go, you gotta go.
I actually had the following in my first post, but went back and deleted it:
Others may disagree, but I personally would not have lifted him. What did he do that he had been trained not to do? What did this teach him? If it could have taught "do not stop while biking, regardless of need to poop," that's one thing. But he didn't learn that, IMO. He received an inexplicable (to him) correction (IMHO).
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#366784 - 09/18/2012 07:22 PM |
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Try getting into a pattern or give him a way to alert you.
It doesn't matter if he pooped before we left, Ryuk will poop 2 minutes into a bikeride...it's almost like clockwork and he usually has one poop after that during one run.
I started doing a few slow rides to catch him the second before he poops, then literally forcing him into a sit (he won't poop in a sit) then I'd ask him to bark THEN let him poop. By ride #3 he started giving me a yip a half second before he squats, just enough time to slam on the brakes.
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#366785 - 09/18/2012 09:44 PM |
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"Now I actually recall: him suddenly stopping and pooping on the sidewalk when I was just walking him before...there's isn't much I can do to correct aside from dragging him (he really won't move). If I catch him soon enough, before he stops I can run him to a better spot... sometimes its like he just wants to crap there and he won't in the usual place once we get there then wants to poop as soon as we head back. Super stubborn dog."
I don't see this as stupid or stubborn at all .... he needs some training to alert you (or some accommodation, if not).
Back to what I was saying about a journal: I'd narrow down the poop time with regard to mealtime and either manipulate the mealtime or run him in an acceptable place before biking with him if it's poop time.
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#366787 - 09/18/2012 07:30 PM |
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Kiersten here's our basic route:
Trotting only not in harness about 3/4 mile from home (place to stop and sniff) trot about 1 mile to another place to stop then 1/2 mile home.
He stays right next to me and I watch for traffic a lot...I don't usually see signs of him needing to go and even then he pretty much raises his tail and then stops right then, not even 2 seconds later. Its really not safe, I almost wrecked and got run over by a van today. I don't ever scold him, today was just today what can I say.
I don't want us to get run over #1 priority and second, there's got to be solution.
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#366788 - 09/18/2012 07:32 PM |
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I do understand your frustration and shock at the time.
So .... now it's time to take a deep breath and think about how to avoid the situation. 
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#366790 - 09/18/2012 07:38 PM |
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You're barking up the wrong tree....I never blamed Logan, I just don't want to be SAFE and really don't know what to do about it. Not pooping in the field he always poops in when he obviously needs to poop, yeah that's stubborn, he's a Dutchie. I don't scold my dog (aside from today's near death experience)...so its a moot point but then again who knows who is reading this thread that needs to know.
Just trying to figure out what to do about this.
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