hello everyone with heavy heart i would to tell that i have lost my dog Elsa german shepherd 3 years of age on jan 1st 2013 i cant stop thinking why she died everyone pointing at me saying that i fed her raw food diet that lead to her death you guys could see my posts in puppy feeding i switched to raw when she was 6 months old everything was fine . until september 2012 then she started to vomit bile no food just bile yellow water or gel type substance docs put her on gastric medication every problem was ruled out did everything spent over 1500$ took barium xrays some vet's wanted to do Explorative laparotomy surgery to see what was wrong did multiple type's of blood tests everything came normal even she was scheduled for MRI scan but she died january 1st in my hands the problem was never diagnosed . she never suffered anyother stuff just vomiting bile how could RFD be a cause to that ? what might be the problem i m feeling guilty cuz everyone pointing finger at me feeding her raw food diet . now even scared to switch my 2 month old gsd OTIS to raw food diet Please shed some light on what might have happened with my dog

Uma, so sorry for your loss. Losing a beloved pet without knowing why has to be one of the hardest things. I am so sorry.

As for your questioning her diet, I don't claim to be an expert not even a novice really, just someone who does feed RAW and I highly doubt it had to do with the diet. However, that doesn't mean feeding RAW isn't without risk. Dogs have died from choking on kibble to. Can you tell us what you were feeding her? Also was a necropsy done?

Again, I'm so sorry for your loss.

no post mortem was done i used to feed her whole chickens liver hearts and stuff like that

 Quote: uma deekshith

hello everyone with heavy heart i would to tell that i have lost my dog Elsa german shepherd 3 years of age on jan 1st 2013 i cant stop thinking why she died everyone pointing at me saying that i fed her raw food diet that lead to her death you guys could see my posts in puppy feeding i switched to raw when she was 6 months old everything was fine . until september 2012 then she started to vomit bile no food just bile yellow water or gel type substance docs put her on gastric medication every problem was ruled out did everything spent over 1500$ took barium xrays some vet's wanted to do Explorative laparotomy surgery to see what was wrong did multiple type's of blood tests everything came normal even she was scheduled for MRI scan but she died january 1st in my hands the problem was never diagnosed . she never suffered anyother stuff just vomiting bile how could RFD be a cause to that ? what might be the problem i m feeling guilty cuz everyone pointing finger at me feeding her raw food diet . now even scared to switch my 2 month old gsd OTIS to raw food diet Please shed some light on what might have happened with my dog

What was the tentative cause of death? A blockage is findable, so I'm very confused about why "everyone" says raw feeding.

When she vomited bile nothing was done but "gastric medication"? (BTW, if you mean antacid, this should have triggered the vet explaining about taking the dog off raw for that period, but that's neither here nor there in this case; for other readers, you don't keep a dog on raw while giving antacids, and this is unfortunately not something many vets understand.)

There are risks to all feeding protocols. But I see no "raw-feeding" clues here. A blockage, for example, would/should have been found. So I'm not at all sure what "everyone" means when they say it was the raw food.

I do know I feel horrible for you, and also feel strongly that you made no error in your choice.

Surely the thousands of people whose dogs died from melamine-tainted kibble from dozens of manufacturers in 2007 should not feel personal guilt.

And you ..... I don't even understand the connection between the food and this death. Feeling guilt over it is so counterproductive and so misplaced .... I don't know how to say any more strongly that you are not at fault. Even if there was a blockage (this can happen), you took the dog to the vet. Blockages are not invisible.

What else is "everyone" saying it was? I know no condition exclusive to raw feeding that has bile-vomiting as its only (or main) symptom.

Please accept my heartfelt sympathy.

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no post mortem was done i used to feed her whole chickens liver hearts and stuff like that

And edible bones, right? Raw diets are based on RMBs.

there were bone too and connie idid stop raw food diet at the time of medication kept her on Taste of the wild kibble there was no blockage as she never vomitted food or she never had diarrea vets took every xray normal one and one with barium no blockages were found then they wanted to an EXploratory laparotomy were they wanted to surgically open the dog up to see if there is something inside it was not with out life risk and they kept her on PREDNISILONE drug after that the dog became a bit better as we thought but she kept eating alot peeing a lot like 2 liters in a day on jan 1st she dint have energy to get up i fed her and took her to walk on 31st night also then the vet suggested to give NERVIGEN injection we did after that she did projectile vomiting once she was fine till evening when i found that she was kind of thirsty i went up to her she dint get up i tryed to see what were wrong with her she closed her mouth when i placed my hand near her i thought something was wrong i wanted to get some help she dint let me go dragged me with her front paws she came andslept in my lap i fed her water with my hand she drank wanted to lick my face came near my face and fell down in my lap that's what happend i still cant forget it. even when the new pup is around me

the vets said on based of what happened she had sudden cardiac arrest aka heart attack i was helpless i couldnt understand what happend with her

This has nothing to do with the diet, Uma. If someone is telling you it has, ask them how so I can explain to you exactly what is wrong in what they are saying.

Congestive heart failure and cancer (and renal failure and other conditions) can have bile-vomiting symptoms. These would not be diet-related.

Dogs don't have heart "attacks" in the way humans do, but anyway, if the dog had heart failure, who in the world is telling you that raw feeding caused it?

“Liver, kidney and pancreatic diseases can all cause vomiting ..... Disease of the central nervous system, congestive heart failure, and cancer may also cause vomiting.”
http://www.vetbase.co.uk/information/the-vomiting-dog.php


http://www.justanswer.com/dog-health/6o68h-dog-died-suddenly-threw-yellow-bile-twice-large.html

"she was fine till evening when i found that she was kind of thirsty i went up to her she dint get up i tryed to see what were wrong with her she closed her mouth when i placed my hand near her i thought something was wrong i wanted to get some help she dint let me go dragged me with her front paws she came andslept in my lap i fed her water with my hand she drank wanted to lick my face came near my face and fell down in my lap that's what happend i still cant forget it. "

I'm so sorry for you.

But she had you right there, holding her, no fear, not alone, as she left this life.


I know you won't forget this tragic loss, but you are innocent. More than just innocent. You did everything right.