Connie Sutherland wrote 07/29/2013 12:35 PM Contestants can ask for suggestions! #381174 - 07/29/2013 12:35 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31580 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	Don't forget, as we said all along: Contestants in our Marker-Training Contest are absolutely allowed to ask the board for help and suggestions, either about the training or about technical (video) stuff!
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Connie Sutherland wrote 07/29/2013 05:34 PM Re: Contestants can ask for suggestions! [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #381180 - 07/29/2013 05:34 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31580 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	Not sure whether this was a suggestion request .... but I made a couple of small ones:  Quote: Milanka Ratkovich http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5L-gBzQgJM&feature=youtu.be here is the sookie one. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2Iu904D2XY&feature=youtu.be here is teh havanna one Nice! Sookie's video .... are you marking a move backward? Sookie is going to go backwards, right? ETA Oh, now I see the backward step. No idea how I missed that the first time! I see very nice prompt capturing of the nose-lick with Havanna. I think I see that the rewards are interrupting the flow a bit, not just with Sookie (seeking dropped bits) but also Havanna, chewing and crumb-seeking. Are these large rewards that break up as they dog chews? There's kind of a lot of chewing and there seems to be quite a bit of crumb-searching on the floor as well. This is just a suggestion .... I would probably consider crumb-free rewards such a Zuke's or LB's Soft, or maybe little eraser-size dice of poultry breast. That is, something that takes no time to swallow and that doesn't drop bits on the floor to distract the dog. Edited by Connie Sutherland (07/29/2013 05:34 PM) Edit reason: ETA
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Connie Sutherland wrote 07/29/2013 05:33 PM Re: Contestants can ask for suggestions! [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #381190 - 07/29/2013 05:33 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31580 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	Here is a clip where Rush is being given tiny rewards that make no crumbs and need no chewing: http://leerburg.com/flix/player.php/127/Training_Sit,_Down_and_Stand_with_Michael_Ellis/?utm_source=nlist&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=07292013 You may have to turn up the volume when Michael Ellis starts talking (it's outdoors).
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Milanka Ratkovich wrote 07/29/2013 10:40 PM Re: Contestants can ask for suggestions! [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #381205 - 07/29/2013 10:40 PM
Milanka Ratkovich Webboard User Reg: 06-01-2013 Posts: 96 Loc: Offline	Quote: Connie Sutherland Not sure whether this was a suggestion request .... but I made a couple of small ones:  Quote: Milanka Ratkovich http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5L-gBzQgJM&feature=youtu.be here is the sookie one. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2Iu904D2XY&feature=youtu.be here is teh havanna one Nice! Sookie's video .... are you marking a move backward? Sookie is going to go backwards, right? ETA Oh, now I see the backward step. No idea how I missed that the first time! I see very nice prompt capturing of the nose-lick with Havanna. I think I see that the rewards are interrupting the flow a bit, not just with Sookie (seeking dropped bits) but also Havanna, chewing and crumb-seeking. Are these large rewards that break up as they dog chews? There's kind of a lot of chewing and there seems to be quite a bit of crumb-searching on the floor as well. This is just a suggestion .... I would probably consider crumb-free rewards such a Zuke's or LB's Soft, or maybe little eraser-size dice of poultry breast. That is, something that takes no time to swallow and that doesn't drop bits on the floor to distract the dog. This one are handmade treats we use (and bake) im throwing the trets to the floor, i will try tomorrow with some hot dog and yes i was "recording" the back steps to the stairs but my brother came down and i paused, the silly me did not put the record again so almost all the progress when to nowhere :P. With havanna is easy because shes vey smart, but i want to change positions so she know that the lick is the one i want :P I can´t get the LB soft treats because im in mexico D: but ill get something soft thanks for the heads up and tips Should we put more videos with the training or we should wait until the contest its over to put the work done?
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Connie Sutherland wrote 07/30/2013 11:03 AM Re: Contestants can ask for suggestions! [Re: Milanka Ratkovich ] #381242 - 07/30/2013 11:03 AM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31580 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	"I cant get the LB soft treats because im in mexico ... but ill get something soft" And small! Then you have a much better chance, I think, of retaining the dog's focus on you rather than chewing and searching the floor. Should we put more videos with the training or we should wait until the contest its over to put the work done? Well, I was thinking that while there is certainly no need to if you don't want to, anyone can if they would like suggestions or if they have a question/problem. I know people will help, whether they are in or not in the contest.
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Milanka Ratkovich wrote 07/30/2013 04:46 PM Re: Contestants can ask for suggestions! [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #381259 - 07/30/2013 04:46 PM
Milanka Ratkovich Webboard User Reg: 06-01-2013 Posts: 96 Loc: Offline	Well i do not mind ulpoading videos (yay for the vacations) so here second session of havanna http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4Jq-8B-s18 And here is the one with sookie http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAcdQFrGY8w P.D.:I was on my pijamas that why i threw the treats, i know i should stand and give the treat to her but lazy girl here :P And the vid are a bit more extensive than last ones :P
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Connie Sutherland wrote 08/02/2013 10:20 AM Re: Contestants can ask for suggestions! [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #381356 - 08/02/2013 10:20 AM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31580 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	Bumping so I/we don't forget to view! Sorry ..... missed this, Milanka.
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Milanka Ratkovich wrote 08/02/2013 09:45 PM Re: Contestants can ask for suggestions! [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #381378 - 08/02/2013 09:45 PM
Milanka Ratkovich Webboard User Reg: 06-01-2013 Posts: 96 Loc: Offline	oh gosh we are stuck.... sookie wont go for the top part of the stairs.. ive changed to a Random reinforcement plan clicking 1 then 3 then 2 then 5 then 1 again, etc. steps but she just wont go any further that the middle of the stairs....Any advice?
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Bob Scott wrote 08/02/2013 11:19 PM Re: Contestants can ask for suggestions! [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #381381 - 08/02/2013 11:19 PM
Bob Scott Moderator Reg: 06-14-2002 Posts: 7417 Loc: St. Louis Mo Offline	Other then when in PJs are you following the dog up the steps and rewarding her in place? She knows the reward will be in front of her. Maybe anticipating? When you say random reward are you saying you rewarding after 1 step, 3 steps, etc? That itself souond correct. old dogs LOVE to learn new tricks
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Milanka Ratkovich wrote 08/04/2013 03:49 PM Re: Contestants can ask for suggestions! [Re: Bob Scott ] #381419 - 08/04/2013 03:49 PM
Milanka Ratkovich Webboard User Reg: 06-01-2013 Posts: 96 Loc: Offline	Other then when in PJs are you following the dog up the steps and rewarding her in place? She knows the reward will be in front of her. Maybe anticipating? Should i follow her? i was clicking for the steps and waiting for her to come for the prize, to "restart" the behavior. should i wait for that and follow her upstairs?
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