Christian Cruz Webboard User Reg: 04-20-2013
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Hello everyone. I wanted to know what are your opinions on dobermans vs gsds in schutzhund. What are the pros and cons with each breed regarding schutzhund.
Will Rambeau Moderator Reg: 01-25-2003
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It is *much* easier to find a good GSD capable of doing SchH versus finding a good Dobie.
Back when I ran my PPD business, I commonly told customers that wanted a Dob trained as a PPD than it would likely take me at least 2 years to find an appropriate Dob and would cost them at least double for the finished product.
A breed I always admired as a kid because one of my uncles had to "real" ones. I don't know that I've seen any like that since.
Both breeds have health issues though I believe the Dobe has a higher place on the list of problems. Heart, bleeder, wobblers, skin, and on.
One of my two GSDs, best dog I've EVER owned, has moderated HD and EPI. I had a GSD x Dane yrs ago that had to be put down because of a GSD problem, DM.
I will always love the GSD though!
John Vanek Webboard User Reg: 03-26-2008
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Assuming both were well bred and without health problems, how would the breeds compare? What would be the strengths and weaknesses relative to each other?
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The only experience I have with dobes is watching dobe handlers. From my observation, dobies seem to be more clingy and affectionate, willing to please their handlers and have a goofy side....shepherds tend to be more self pleasing and more obsessed with the work than the handler yet tend to be one person dogs. Most of the dobies I have seen were softer dogs than shepherds.
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The only experience I have with dobes is watching dobe handlers. From my observation, dobies seem to be more clingy and affectionate, willing to please their handlers and have a goofy side....shepherds tend to be more self pleasing and more obsessed with the work than the handler yet tend to be one person dogs. Most of the dobies I have seen were softer dogs than shepherds.
One of my sons and I are involved in pet Doberman rescue, fostering, and adoption -- Our individual experience has been that among adult Dobies in the K9 welfare system, there is a definite percentage of what are often called "One Man Dogs" ... It is not uncommon to find (usually males, but sometime bitches) that will attach themselves instantly to a new owner while either ignoring or avoiding everyone else! It's only a problem if the dog attempts & is allowed to become "guardy" around other family members & guests in the home, IMHO (We have no personal experience with Schutzhund).
I don't know much about them but at http://www.schutzhundvillage.com there's a girl there named Anita Gunn that has dobies that are apparently pretty good. I heard people at the club talk about them being like the old school "real" dobies. She uses them in the military I believe. I know they're imported from Europe so they have floppy ears and long tails. I have seen her current service dog work in a trial about a year and half ago. Did a pretty nice IPO III routine.
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