Some things: I am using the whistle AND COME as my recall words. I use his name to get his attention. Also, I know that my YES was a bit late, I'm working on it!
I offered him some encouragement as that jump was over one of those rope ladders, something he has never gone over before. Overall, I was very impressed with his ability to adapt!
He has a lovely recall. I would mark him "with an YES" the moment he makes the decision to come to you , rather than when he gets into "home" position , unless you are training the "home"
What Ram said above! That will kick the dog in gear to move quicker. I would also get closer when your adding things like figuring out where you at. That could slow him down if he has to search for you. Thus the need for your "come on".
Nice dog with a lot of potential!
ian bunbury Webboard User Reg: 01-19-2012
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i like that dog . . .
here's my observations .
at the time you gave him the "c'mon " he was actively trying to get to you so i wouldn't have added that .
you are delivering your reward at the same time as your mark . . . there should be a pause between the mark and the production of the reward . you are marking the precise behavior you want , and then the dog gets paid .
He has a lovely recall. I would mark him "with an YES" the moment he makes the decision to come to you , rather than when he gets into "home" position , unless you are training the "home"
Interesting approach to training the recall that I hadn't considered before. Our dog, Bailey, has great recall, 100% reliable (so far), but we trained it by marking and celebrating at the finish. So, in effect, I've actually been only marking and rewarding the finish. I'll have to play with that and see what happens if I try to mark immediately when she turns to come to me.
Actually, the way we trained our recall wasn't through marking training at all, at first. We only starting using marker training when we started working on her finish, which was in the "front" position, sitting close while facing me. Our recall training consisted of "Puppy Ping Pong", two people taking turns calling the dog and rewarding and celebrating like crazy when she got to us. All the back and forth got her excited for the recall as well as tired her out, especially when increasing the distance.
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Varying the timing of the mark helped me to improve my recall, and has helped with motivation in some other behaviors. It was first suggested to me by another trainer in our club. I told him that I sometimes had to repeat my long distance off-leash before she would comply. He suggested that I mark as soon as she turned. That solved a problem that I was considering using an ecollar for.
Sometime later, I watched a video by either IB or Ed and BF, and it showed how to build quickness by withholding the mark until the dog was coming back to build more enthusiasm in a dog that was already coming in. You have to make sure you are very precise with the timing when you do it, but it has helped a little with the dumbbell retrieve and send away.
I also vary when I mark. Sometimes when the dog starts out, sometimes while it's running hard towards me and sometimes when it gets to me and sits. I also put a finish on a formal recall only 2-3 out of ten times so the dog doesn't start anticipating that finish.
EVERYTHING for me is randomly rewarding once the dog understand what you want. EVERY part of a behavior can be reward worthy. Randomly of course!
In a recall or any command/asked for behavior, just remember that once you've given the marker then every thing after that is just getting to you for the reward. You not looking for any sort of front or finish now.
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