I have a 6 month gsd (name of Czar, but renamed by my kids Scar), she jumps on them and everybody constantly, I have tried the knee (as hard as I dare), but she only plays harder, I have tried the pinching toes, which doesnt help, I have tried ignoring her when she jumps and only petting and praising her when she doesnt, but that doesnt seem to work either.
It seems that the only next step is to try to replicate her behavior while on leash and prong, or is there another way ... any help is much appreciated. dj

The best thing for you to do is to re-direct her behavior thru the use of obedience. Teach her the down stay and put her in a down stay when she jumps. Control over behavior comes thru obedience. You must make sure that she understands what the down command means though. If you make the same mistake many other people make by telling a dog "down" when they jump then you will only confuse the dog when you teach her the down command. When a dog jumps on someone or on the furniture you should say "off" or even just "no" instead of down. While teaching the dog the command you should praise and reward her for obeying. Once she absolutely understands the command, I would put a prong collar on her and let her drag a leash around. When she jumps up on someone I would grab the leash and give her a firm correction and say "off". I would then issue the "down" command and lavishly praise her when she minds.

if you try to get 'rough' with my pup, she thinks you are ready for a hard play session and steps up the intensity. for me, a spray bottle of water has been effective for problem behaviors combined with treats for appropriate manners.

I solved this problem with my dog by taking her shoulders in my hands when she jumped up, pushing her down to a standing or sitting position, and with her face cupped in my hands, bending down to her and telling her loudly "OFF... bad girl, no, etc." I had to be very loud and angry-sounding about it to get through to her, because when she was jumping up, she was in a state of so much excitement, she just wouldn't listen to anything else.

This worked after trying all of the things you mentioned, with no success.

Here is how I do it. First the dog is just greeting you so don't nail her for that response, it is a good one.

I grab the dogs front legs and hold them for a LONG ASS TIME. Then I give a down command and play with the dogs real hard when I am ready to. I down the dogs when I come home, I ignore them for at least five minutes or so and then go say hi and release the down. I have little kids too, and they don't like being bumped and jostled by the dogs every time we come home. Guests hate that Sh!+ too.

Teach a nice down, grab the legs to stop the jumping EVERY TIME, and redirect that energy into the positive behavior (the down) and reward the dogs after a little bit.

If you dog does not mind her legs being held, then pull them up higher and walk forward to a wall and push her into it (don't slam the dog into the wall either :rolleyes: ). She will hate being pushed into that position, that I guarantee.

My overall idea of keeping the dogs from bugging me or others is to make them realize that when they are being pests I will ignore them, only when they work for me I will pay attention to them.

Like at the door, when you know your dog does not HAVE to "go" outside, he just wants to go out and mess around or bark at the neighbor dogs because he is bored. I don't put up with that crap. I will make the dog do some obedience with a play reward after a long down or whatever. (like on the next commercial <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> ) This creates the always present rule, you do what I want and you get attention. You screw around, you don't get dick, and you may even get put in the crate or kennel.

What is really funny is when I am watching the Laker game and the dogs are sitting, then downing, then rolling over, whatever to get me to pay attention to them. Good dogs. . .

Come on VanCamp....I know your really holding back here. I can tell your dying to say "CORRECT THE S*** OUT OF HER!!!"LOL

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Pretty sound advice from Mr. VanCamp. I too have tried the method he speaks of. I also realize that having the dog greet you is a nice thing. The gist of my first post was mainly re-directing the behavior thru obedience. Then as a last resort, correct then re-direct.

thats sounds like good advice, I will try holding onto the legs for a long time, and then go to a down.
will this stop her from jumping on the kids?

What I did with my GSD to stop him from jumping on me or anyone else is a trick i read somewhere on this board and unlike anything else I have tried in the past this worked for me. basically when the dog jumps up at my face to greet me, I turn my back to him. He will then move to face me again, I again turn around. I keep doing this until he stops jumping. Once he stops jumping I give the petting and attention he is wanting. It only took a couple of days of this for him to stop jumping at me. Since then he has not jumped up on anyone. He approaches them calmly , takes a sniff and walks away from them as for me he now sits calmly and waits for me to pet him when I come home from work.

Philippe, good advise in my opinion. Withholding the praise that our dogs crave causes them to think hard about how to get your attention. Turning away from your dog in silence does work and doesn't make a hard dog harder. I'm all for leash corrections when needed but not when there's an effective alternative that requires the dog to figure out what the apropriate behavior should be.
I think alot of trainers just are not patient enough to wait maybe five full minutes for a dog to calm down. I know firsthand that this type of training with kids in the house is difficult because everyone (including the kids) has to respond the same way, everytime, until the behavior is eliminated.
It's good to teach your dog to go to his bed everytime the doorbell rings or a toddler walks into the room. This avoids having to deal with the other hassles all together.

it only took a couple of times for him to grasp the concept and now I can come home from work without being jumped all over by my GSD. He waits calmly for me to pet him. As time has progressed I can now even change clothes (something I prefer because I don't want to mess up my good clothes) before I even touch him.