handler panic
#392183 - 07/10/2014 08:38 AM |
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hello evryone ,its been a long i wanted to get an advice abt one of the problem of my dog..which is my female 15 months dog reacting lil bit panic aggresion towards me, i would like to add about his training that since i brought her home ,have been following all the info from leerburg,i have been being with her exactly d way what i have learn after watching most of the video dvds from leerburg and she s pretty good in all factore like drive building,pack structure,focus on me nd so on...she used to be vry frndly towards any thng like human,cats,dogs bcuz i socialized her with all of those frm vry begining,she s well trained and very famous in my neighbour bcuz they cant think abt a dog specially a gsd can be obedient nd frndly like ds ,i tk her out off leash although i use to have d leash with me always if needed,she never goes away of me nd comes to me whn called in any distraction,BUT RECENTLY i have been notice that sm time she getting petted my smone she knows and she she suddenly goes in nippinf from a submissive state of mind although she know d person very well frm her puppyhood,,i also have seen she is vry panic abt me like if i pet her or hold her in my arms her ears are back laying d ground nd growls,it hapnd so many time nd evrytime i corrected her like i learn from the dvd dealing with a dominant and aggressive dog ,i hang her for few seconds nd she stops but hit d ground,i have been following all the rules to be a pack leader ,i have through lots of dvds regarding ds from leerburg,,,bt after doin that i m noticing she s so frightened abt me nd these days she dsnt feel comfortable with me she goes nd stays with my mom nd dad but blv me my parents never do anything to be a pack leader with her but still she dsnt growl them nd feel vry comfortable with them....m lil bit confused should i stop d correction nd treat her in other ways or what..she doin ds last few days a lil more ,i dnt know if she isnt feeling comfortable jst bcuz she is in heat circle or what but she acted like ds earlier too....PLZ GIVE ME SOME IDEA
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[Re: asit kumar bhattacharya ]
#392185 - 07/10/2014 09:21 AM |
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Your posts are nearly impossible to read. I do not attribute this to your lack of English--because you seem to have a pretty good command of it and are able to fully write and correctly spell many multisyllabic words. But because every other word in your posts is an abbreviation, I practically have to read them aloud to make any sense of it.
When I do, I think I have deciphered that you hang your dog.
I would bite you too.
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#392186 - 07/10/2014 09:41 AM |
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ya , that's what i got out of it too tracy .
sounds to me like she just went through a fear phase , and instead of just recognizing it and removing the dog from the situation , and then examining what created the response , asit laid on some pretty heavy positive punishment .
gonna take some serious work to recover from that one . . . " whooops , wish i hadn't done that ! "
and asit maybe lay off the texting language/script . type what you want to say , review it and edit . a lot of people look at a block of text like that and just ignore it .
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#392187 - 07/10/2014 10:00 AM |
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IMHO, your dog is NOT dominant at all, and is NOT displaying ANY dominance-aggression...
From your description, she seems very SOFT and SUBMISSIVE in temperament...
But you appear to be RUINING any basis for a Relationship of Trust that may ever have existed with this poor dog...
IMHO, she is showing Defensive FEAR Aggression in reaction to your Harsh Handling, because you have somehow Taught Her to expect HOSTILITY From All HUMANS...
I am just a Pet Owner, so I am really HOPING that some of our Advanced Trainers will comment here, in case I am mistakenly misreading your situation.
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#392188 - 07/10/2014 10:10 AM |
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Ditto on the difficult to read.
That said, there are so many mixed signals here that I can't keep track. On one hand, I'm reading about corrections that would be applied to a dominant and agressive dog, to include "hanging" (very troubling). On the other hand, you go out with her off leash and she is model of submission and obedience.
I'm confused and I'm sure your dog is too. There is lots to read in this forum about the appropriate level of corrections. There is also a lot of mention of the importance to be consistent in how you treat your dog. Sounds like you need to go back to the basics and focus on both. It sounds like your dog is losing her trust in you, which is causing some of the fear or panic when you try to get close to her. Either she is a dominant or agressive dog or she is not, but don't correct her as one if she is not. The "hanging" is a little extreme and probably isn't warranted in this case. Actually, it's a LOT extreme.
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#392189 - 07/10/2014 10:35 AM |
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IMHO, your dog is NOT dominant at all, and is NOT displaying ANY dominance-aggression...
From your description, she seems very SOFT and SUBMISSIVE in temperament...
But you appear to be RUINING any basis for a Relationship of Trust that may ever have existed with this poor dog...
IMHO, she is showing Defensive FEAR Aggression in reaction to your Harsh Handling, because you have somehow Taught Her to expect HOSTILITY From All HUMANS...
in case I am mistakenly misreading your situation.
No, I don't believe that you are misreading it. Pretty much nailed it...
Pretty much sums it up for me.
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#392190 - 07/10/2014 12:49 PM |
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Perhaps it would be best to begin a Nothing In Life Is Free (NILF) program with your dog. Not pet her at all at unless she does something you want, like sit. Not cuddle her, make over her for no reason.
Look up "Nothing in Life is Free". And don't treat her like a cuddly baby, she is a mature dog. She needs to have boundaries, and you do too--don't press yourself on her so much as to make her uncomfortable.
Her disposition will be more difficult when she is in heat. So give her some space, rules and space.
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#392191 - 07/10/2014 01:40 PM |
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thank you all for your advices.she indeed a vry polite dog and she knows her boundary and perimeters apart of this painc problem she is just a awsm and obedient dog and i follow the rule of 'nilif' from the begining,the food and treats are so far i never even pet her for free, i make her sit before i pet her , give her water or the food bowl...and whenevr i give this corrections i stay calm and i never loose my temper or never been loud or crazy...
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#392192 - 07/10/2014 02:00 PM |
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You have to fit the correction to the dog. Whatever the circumstances when you are giving it, it is too much for her and you are damaging your relationship.
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#392193 - 07/10/2014 02:18 PM |
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You have to fit the correction to the dog...
Whatever the circumstances when you are giving it, it is too much for her...
and you are damaging your relationship.
IMHO, you are Terrorizing this poor dog into Panic-Mode...
YOU have made her a Fear-Biter through wrongfully Harsh Corrections that are way out of line !!!
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