Just wondering what you guys think about this. I thought it was major over kill for the crime, but always open to hear what others think.

Scenario:
Extremely "over friendly" dog, loves to have visitors in the home. Most of the time just smells the feet, but sometimes is overcome with excitement and lifts the forelegs from the ground. Unless someone is leaning over the dog, there is no contact as the dog jumps in front of the person and will not go forward unless the person backs up. If someone walks into the dog, the dog will not jump on that person.

One time, new visitor in home, dog is very excited, sniffs the person's feet, then looks up and forelegs lift about 6 inches off the ground. The person grabs the top half of the dog's muzzle in a tight grip and twists until the dog yelps in pain. The dog is then held in that position, head forced in a sideways position and down, for quite awhile.

I just thought that was overkill since the dog only wanted to say "hello" and, though, jumping is rather annoying, it is not something I correct harshly for. Usually, I just walk into the dog to claim my space ....

But that is me. What do you guys think?

I would have been furious if this had been one of my dogs, jumping up or not. It's my job to make sure my dogs don't jump on guests, and I do so in my own way. Guests have no business correcting my dogs let alone putting their hands on them to inflict pain. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" />

This is why my dogs are not loose when I have "guests" over. If you know someone and they are not an IDIOT, it is one thing to let them visit for a minute, but as a pack leader you just failed your dog by allowing this to happen.

If you have people around you can not control, do not have your dog around them.

I would love to have this person visit me. I would let him have a body piercing, no charge. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

I DO feel like I let my dog down. Luckily, she was not traumatized by the event.

I was not in the same area but could see it happen and WAS royally pissed off. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" /> After that, I made sure to keep an eye on this person when it came to my dog. From the way this person spoke before she visited, I had never expected something like this and really thought she knew what she was talking about when it came to dogs. So, I thought it safe, after seeing that the dog was not jumping up, to go get the beer out of the car ....

I did learn one lesson, never believe what people say. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" />

I think my response to that person would have been "I'm sorry my dog was so happy to see you and mistakingly took you for a nice person. Obviously, she was WRONG." accompanied by a nice long glare.

As I then lead the dog out of the room, I would say to her (within hearing distance of that person) "That's the kind of aggressive behavior I'm trying to keep you from learning, dear."

Then make sure to never have that person in your house or near your dog ever again.

Thats pretty damn rude to nail your dog for that. . .or anything really.

Not the best idea to let your dog greet people I guess.


I agree with Deanna about the free piercing part. Get yourself a nice working line GSD and this won't be an issue in the future. LOL

Emma would have loved that. . .

Hehe...owning Emma's driven full litter brother, the picture of Emma recieving a correction from a near stranger makes me go "ouch" mentally....

But just keeping a dog away from house visitors is always the safest course of action.
Better safe than sorry !

Like I'd let Fetz around my house guests...

Consider this- if the guest in your home treated a rowdy child that way would you hesitate over whether the guest acted appropriately? My husband's best friend teased my dog once on New Year's Eve- nothing as extreme as you are describing. We no longer invite them to our home. They have dropped by a couple times since then and my dog is put away immediately.

Thanks everyone <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> Yep, extreme overkill in my books and, yes, I also thought it was total disrespect toward me since I HAD been nice enough to open my house up to her and feed her ....

BTW, I had already decided not to have this person over to my house again -- that was never a question. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> Also found out after that incident that sniffing feet was a major crime in her books as well (so glad I did not have my bloodhound then!! :rolleyes: )

VanCamp: I do hope to get a nice german working line sable girl one day <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> , but somehow I have a strong feeling I will end up with a Dobie girl again first :rolleyes: Love living with the breed, but prefer working with the GSDs -- Less tightrope (that's the word for it, isn't it??) walking <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

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Originally posted by Pamela Diller:
Consider this- if the guest in your home treated a rowdy child that way would you hesitate over whether the guest acted appropriately?

Actually, I did not even consider my girl being rowdy at the time. She was extremely polite in my eyes -- excited, yes, but polite.

I do like the body piercing idea (hehe), but I took the more polite route and dealt with my dog when she came to me and "said" -- Mummy, I really don't like what she just did to me!! (I had taught my dog to come to me when she did not like something instead of fighting back on her own -- I had to do that since I worked with a lot of kids during her lifetime. Poor pup. What is good training for one situation, ends up being bad in another :rolleyes: )