Christina Stockinger wrote 09/26/2015 06:32 AM Exercises only left. Question: unequal training? #399325 - 09/26/2015 06:32 AM
Christina Stockinger Webboard User Reg: 01-23-2015 Posts: 1619 Loc: Brazil, Bahia Offline	In Forrest Mickes Course Heeler's Toolbox various exercises are done only on our lefthand side. Why? I asked the question in the Discussion Forum and recieved from one member the answer, that it was practised like this because in a lot of dog sports it is asked to have the dog on this side. As much as I like the Course as a whole, I'm inwardly very opposed agaainst this. I cannot get rid of the impression that this leads to an one-sided training and my dogs will accustom to an unequal body awarenness. That's why I have trained everything on both sides. Anything incorrect with this? “If you can keep your head when all around you are losing theirs, then you are a leader” – Rudyard Kipling
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ian bunbury wrote 09/26/2015 10:31 AM Re: Exercises only left. Question: unequal training? [Re: Christina Stockinger ] #399327 - 09/26/2015 10:31 AM
ian bunbury Webboard User Reg: 01-19-2012 Posts: 685 Loc: whistler bc ca Offline	one of the cool things about training dogs : there is no law that says you have to do it one way and one way only . you take what you learn from others and adapt it to your particular situation . there may well be some reason why a particular trainer will advocate " one way " over another , and that should be made clear ( ex. training for a particular competitive sport which only allows certain things ) , but if your goals are your only criteria you should feel free to explore whatever works for you . or , you may want to follow a particular trainers' methods to the letter so that you can see what path their protocols will lead to . it sounds like you are educating yourself , which is more than 99% of dog owners ( gross generalization of course ) do , so i'd say you can proceed in good conscience . personally , i think generalizing everything on both sides is a sound practice . sometimes life doesn't always come at you from the left . dogs : the best part of being human
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Christina Stockinger wrote 09/26/2015 11:59 AM Re: Exercises only left. Question: unequal training? [Re: Christina Stockinger ] #399328 - 09/26/2015 11:59 AM
Christina Stockinger Webboard User Reg: 01-23-2015 Posts: 1619 Loc: Brazil, Bahia Offline	Thanks, Ian, that's how I can accept it. I don't have the intention to go into a particular sport, I simply want to give to my dogs the most equilaibrated education I can. “If you can keep your head when all around you are losing theirs, then you are a leader” – Rudyard Kipling
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Candi Campbell wrote 09/28/2015 10:58 AM Re: Exercises only left. Question: unequal training? [Re: Christina Stockinger ] #399331 - 09/28/2015 10:58 AM
Candi Campbell Webboard User Reg: 03-28-2013 Posts: 1571 Loc: Offline	Quote: Christina Stockinger In Forrest Mickes Course Heeler's Toolbox various exercises are done only on our lefthand side. Why? I asked the question in the Discussion Forum and recieved from one member the answer, that it was practised like this because in a lot of dog sports it is asked to have the dog on this side. As much as I like the Course as a whole, I'm inwardly very opposed agaainst this. I cannot get rid of the impression that this leads to an one-sided training and my dogs will accustom to an unequal body awarenness. That's why I have trained everything on both sides. Anything incorrect with this? Why has heeling a dog traditionally been done on the handler's LEFT side ??? Perhaps because most people are Right-Handed, so they would carry a weapon on their RIGHT side, but that's just a guess on my part -- Why has mounting & dismounting a horse traditionally been done on the HORSE'S left side ??? I don't remember, LOL...
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Christina Stockinger wrote 09/29/2015 12:04 PM Re: Exercises only left. Question: unequal training? [Re: Christina Stockinger ] #399339 - 09/29/2015 12:04 PM
Christina Stockinger Webboard User Reg: 01-23-2015 Posts: 1619 Loc: Brazil, Bahia Offline	LOL again!- I cannot actually find out if my dogs ar right- or left pawed, but I still think it is good to trained both sides. For Forrest of course I can understand it is different, as he goes in direction of certain sports. Thanks for your clear answer! “If you can keep your head when all around you are losing theirs, then you are a leader” – Rudyard Kipling
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Christina Stockinger wrote 09/29/2015 12:27 PM Re: Exercises only left. Question: unequal training? [Re: Christina Stockinger ] #399340 - 09/29/2015 12:27 PM
Christina Stockinger Webboard User Reg: 01-23-2015 Posts: 1619 Loc: Brazil, Bahia Offline	By the way, I have mounted horses only twice in my lifetime, from the right hand side. I was almost in pamic. But the horse seemed to understand. It somehow balnced me, so that I didn't fall over to the other side. Great feeling afterwards sitting on the horse for a certain time. Then the horse decided: It's enough now!, and turned and walked me back to the stable! That's why I'd like so much to have dogs and cats and horses. but unfortunatley not everything we wish is possible. “If you can keep your head when all around you are losing theirs, then you are a leader” – Rudyard Kipling
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Candi Campbell wrote 10/01/2015 10:20 AM Re: Exercises only left. Question: unequal training? [Re: Christina Stockinger ] #399350 - 10/01/2015 10:20 AM
Candi Campbell Webboard User Reg: 03-28-2013 Posts: 1571 Loc: Offline	Quote: Christina Stockinger By the way, I have mounted horses only twice in my lifetime, from the right hand side. I was almost in pamic. But the horse seemed to understand. It somehow balnced me, so that I didn't fall over to the other side. Great feeling afterwards sitting on the horse for a certain time. Then the horse decided: It's enough now!, and turned and walked me back to the stable! That's why I'd like so much to have dogs and cats and horses. but unfortunatley not everything we wish is possible. Yeah, that traditional "mount / dismount a horse on ITS left side" is a man-made protocol ... The horse itself might only "care" out of habit and figured you for newbie push-over, LOL
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Christina Stockinger wrote 10/03/2015 05:42 AM Re: Exercises only left. Question: unequal training? [Re: Candi Campbell ] #399358 - 10/03/2015 05:42 AM
Christina Stockinger Webboard User Reg: 01-23-2015 Posts: 1619 Loc: Brazil, Bahia Offline	Very nasty this behaviour to a newbie! The door of the stabel was very low and I feared to hit my head and fall down. Poor animal, I held myself with my arms around his neck, the horse must have felt near to be strangled! “If you can keep your head when all around you are losing theirs, then you are a leader” – Rudyard Kipling
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Debbie Martin wrote 10/04/2015 10:27 AM Re: Exercises only left. Question: unequal training? [Re: Christina Stockinger ] #399359 - 10/04/2015 10:27 AM
Debbie Martin Webboard User Reg: 02-20-2010 Posts: 492 Loc: Toronto, Canada Offline	You have to go back to ancient times when horses were used as war mounts. Soldiers carry their swords on the left side (to reach with their right hand) and so they could only mount from the left or they would sit on their sword. Nothing to do with dog training; just an interesting fact.
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Candi Campbell wrote 10/05/2015 09:15 AM Re: Exercises only left. Question: unequal training? [Re: Debbie Martin ] #399363 - 10/05/2015 09:15 AM
Candi Campbell Webboard User Reg: 03-28-2013 Posts: 1571 Loc: Offline	Quote: Debbie Martin You have to go back to ancient times when horses were used as war mounts. Soldiers carry their swords on the left side (to reach with their right hand) and so they could only mount from the left or they would sit on their sword. Nothing to do with dog training; just an interesting fact. Most excellent knowledge of military equine history, THANKS
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