I own focus heeling, power of tug and food and other DVD of his system. I am eyeing the leash skills but not sure how redundant it would be. What interests me is the section on loose leash walking. Anyone with experience on this video and focus heeling?

If there is different content in the leash skills video than focused healing I will go for it but I don't want to spend that money for 10 min of new content.

What I think it is doing is expanding on the leash pressure in focused healing. Am I correct?

Thanks

I own both of them, but I have not watched either one in a couple years. My memory is not good enough to say off the top of my head how they differ. I think you are probably right about the leash skills going into more detail about teaching the dog to give to pressure. I think the focused heeling is geared more toward the details of competition type heeling, but you are right, there is a short segment in that one about leash pressure.

I'm going to try, sometime over the coming weekend, to skim through both of them and maybe be able to tell you more. I've got a home remodeling project going on, plus a job of my own I'm finishing up, or I would have done it by now. Hope to be able to tell you something in the next couple days!

I just composed a long, detailed post, and then accidentally hit some random key and it went poof!

I was saying that I ended up having some spare time this morning since my flooring guys are here and there's too much noise in the house for me to work, so I did pop in the two DVDs in question and skimmed them.

In a nutshell: The one you have, Focused Heeling, is four hours long and has an almost-hour-long segment discussing leash pressure. The Leash Skills video is one hour, 12 minutes long, So, yes, there is some overlap. I can't tell you in terms of minutes how much is new or different. I still felt I learned something from both of them. The course outlines shown here on the site are very accurate and should give you a good idea. I also will say that I feel both of them, but especially Focused Heeling, are geared toward handlers who plan on competing with their dogs, but I also believe any dog owner interested in having a well-trained and well-mannered dog -- and willing to do the work this entails -- will benefit. Leash Pressure is on sale right now, so maybe that will sway you.

I think a lot depends on your personal goals and needs with your dog. In a thread you started a few days ago, you asked almost the same question, except you were also considering Tyler Muto's Loose Leash Walking online course. I'm not personally familiar with it, but in the description, it says: "This is a niche course designed with the everyday owner in mind who simply wants to be able to walk their dog down the street." From some of your other posts, it sounds like you are doing a lot of walking/biking for fun and exercise and just want her to not pull on the leash. Maybe the Muto course would be right up your alley.

I can absolutely confirm what Cheri says. I too have Focused Heeling, although I don't intend to go into competition. It was extremely useful for my walks. My dogs hardly ever pull anymore, unless a very high distraction unexpectedly turns up. But master this we have to learn to work under distractions, the dog has to get used gradually to very little and then slowly to more intensive distractions.
About this exists a DVD to by Forrest Micke. Engagment Skills. Very recommendable!
Forrest Micke offers also DVDs The Heeler's Toolbox. Also Heeler's Toolbox 1 - 3 as interactive course. I have taken all three twice with different dogs and with a third one only 1 and 2, because we had big internet problems. They are certainly very useful for people who want to go into competition, but also for me. It is so rich of exercises, never boring in the least neither for the dog nor the handler.

I personnally prefer those interactive courses, first of all because I can upload vídeos and then recieve a very thorough and detailed feedback from Forrest. I love also the exchange with the classmates, from whom we can learn a lot, from there mistakes and their successes. Not to forget the Life Chats which are also rich on materials, we not so easily have the chance to come across. Great, great courses. For me they were worth every penny.

I bought it. There was some overlap but it was worth it. especially the part about using leash pressure to make the dog bring the toy back. The sale did sway me.

Cingrats!! Good luck and success for you both. Believe fmore you watch and read it more detailes you'll you discover. At leastfor me it was like that. I regularly saw I had miissed or had told me : "Understood" and on the next times I had to admit that I sometimes had done a sloppy erformance .A very goog methiod is to tape uooselves and the compare with my productiomj exactly wih thr one
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I find that to be the case with the Michael Ellis videos. The more times you watch them, the more you learn! Most are at least a few hours long, and they are so packed full of information, so comprehensive and detailed, that it is impossible to absorb everything on just the first viewing. They are a valued part of my dog training library -- not just the ME ones, which are wonderful, but everything I have gotten here, including my first Forrest Micke one, which I'm sure won't be my last. There are a few other featured trainers I'd like to try, too.

Agree with you, Cheri. I've a lot of DVDs from MIchael. I regularly watch them again and Always finf something new or will be remembered that I should keep an eye of something which SEEMED to be negligeable. Yes, counts for all LB's DVDs or courses.

Sorry for the strange additions at the end. No Idea how it happened and also for the confusion of wrong placed letters. Hope you have all enough phantasie to guess the right meaning. LOL.

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Sorry for the strange additions at the end. No Idea how it happened and also for the confusion of wrong placed letters. Hope you have all enough phantasie to guess the right meaning. LOL.

I was wondering what was going on with your keypad this morning!

I'm not quite sure, if it was the keypad, Cheri. I thought, perhaps my eyes or eye-glasses. But my doctor said, I don't need new glasses, just need to clean them.