Mislabeling breeds
#405032 - 10/28/2017 08:15 AM |
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Does anyone else see a problem with somebody posting pictures of their dog and they mislabel what breed it is?
I was part of a Dutch Shepherd group but quickly found that the group condoned and encouraged people with brindle mixes (mostly pit-mixes) to call their dogs a DS. To me this is wrong, it is confusing to people unfamiliar or new to the breed. Why is it ok and accepted by so many? I don't understand why they don't just call their dog a wannabe DS or a mixed breed. I asked to please not call their dog a DS unless it was purchased from a reputable breeder, obtained from a legit DS rescue or identified by a breed expert. They all flipped out so I left the group.
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#405033 - 10/28/2017 10:08 AM |
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Ignorance can't be fixed! I was on an OES group on fb, and they flipped out when we had a convo about tail docking and the reasons behind it.
Ignorance can't be fixed, I think leaving was the best thing you did
The world is full of uneducated people.
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#405034 - 10/28/2017 10:38 PM |
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Everyone "guesses" at what breed their pet may be.
Sometime just for the fun of it, sometimes out of ego.
Having a Dutch Shepherd is much more "exotic" and less controversial then having a Pit or Pit mix.
I see weekly Humane Society dogs put in the papers for adoption that can't possibly be what they claim it to be.
Avoiding the "pitbull" label on any brindle dogs is most common yet there are numerous breeds that carry the brindle color.
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#405036 - 10/29/2017 05:15 AM |
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Yes. My two Pits (sold from the owner as such) don't ressemble eacu other much although they ar sisters of the same litter. I've heard that dogs of the same litter can have different fathers. as the ovultaion happens when they are having sex, not monthly like for women. Is this true?
If yes, thene there is probably another breed involved. We actually don't mind as we didn't want necessarily Pits. We just wanted dogs who might be of a certain protection when I go alone on walks. It was accidental that they were just there, when we decided to buy dogs.
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#405038 - 10/29/2017 06:38 PM |
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This is a major problem within one of my dog's breeds. Rogue is an American Bulldog. I belong to a FB group for AmBulls and they require people to label mixes as such. Lots of arguing about dogs that have features that HAVE to come from another breed being labeled as pure American Bulldogs.
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#405041 - 10/29/2017 11:05 PM |
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It's quite possible that a littler can have more then one parent.
In fact I "believe" the AKC will allow this if all the parents involved have registered DNA.
In this way a female can be bred to a couple of dog to find out what the combo produces as each puppy will have their DNA registered also.
This is done instead of waiting to breed a second time to a different stud dog.
When I bought my first home yrs ago my parents had a female that "wandered off" and thus had a litter.
I kept two of those pups.
The mother was built like a sight hound and marked like a Collie
My male pup could have won in the Yellow Lab show ring yet the female looked like her mother.
There were also spotted pups, a solid colored pup, and one that looked like a coyote.
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#405042 - 10/30/2017 05:03 AM |
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I always thought if someone sells a purebred it should not be a mix. If they allow during the heat of the female only one male "serve"r her, this should be possible, or not?
The owner asked us if we want a pedigree, but it was of no importance for us and we would have payed much more for probably a lie.
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#405050 - 10/30/2017 10:51 PM |
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Of course it's possible with a legit breeding and the vast majorities are with only one stud dog.
Obviously, based on my comment about DNA with all three parents they would be the same breed.
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#405051 - 10/31/2017 05:20 AM |
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But how is it in US? Can you trust pedigrees? Are they controlled or could they easily be a fake like here?
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#405054 - 10/31/2017 07:17 AM |
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Does anyone else see a problem with somebody posting pictures of their dog and they mislabel what breed it is?
I was part of a Dutch Shepherd group but quickly found that the group condoned and encouraged people with brindle mixes (mostly pit-mixes) to call their dogs a DS. To me this is wrong, it is confusing to people unfamiliar or new to the breed. Why is it ok and accepted by so many? I don't understand why they don't just call their dog a wannabe DS or a mixed breed. I asked to please not call their dog a DS unless it was purchased from a reputable breeder, obtained from a legit DS rescue or identified by a breed expert. They all flipped out so I left the group.
Yes, I am bothered by the common practice of mislabeling breeds, too, if it is done intentionally. Oftentimes, people adopt a very nice dog from the shelter, are told it is a such-and-such mix, they don't know dog breeds well enough to believe any differently, so that's what they tell people their dog is. That's forgivable to me.
Many shelters are reluctant to come right out and call their adoptable dogs pit mixes. Bob listed a lot of reasons upthread for why this commonly happens. I don't necessarily agree with the practice, but if it helps the good dogs get adopted, I'm not that bothered by it.
However, the situation you describe, Tresa, with a group dedicated to one particular breed knowingly and willingly allowing dogs that are clearly mixes, pit or otherwise, to be included in the group, without identifying them as such, is puzzling, to say the least, and maddening, I'm sure, to those knowledgeable about that particular breed. I'm sure it is confusing to members of the public who may be interested in that breed and are viewing this group's website or other photos online for more information.
I would have left the group, too.
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