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#405815 - 03/07/2018 10:17 PM |
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I don't necessarily consider it baby talk but praise comes from me in a higher pitch then my normal voice.
New finding? Not so much!
I've been doing that for 50 or more yrs even when I was still using some heavy handed training.
It was often the only means of communication to the dog that it did well.
Treats were a big NO for anything more then cute parlor tricks but talking in a high pitch voice worked.
I recall some of the "men" when I was teaching basic obedience that had trouble talking like that.
I always loved making a fool out of myself so it was easy for me to do and watch those guys cringe and wiggle around uncomfortably.
My wife would just give me the stink eye for doing it but she didn't fool me cause I saw her chuckling more then once ....or was she snickering AT me?   
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#405819 - 03/08/2018 12:59 AM |
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What made me laugh was imagining the scenario of a room full of men talking in a squeaky, high pitched voice to their pups, and the two men that first sprung to mind where you and Mike!
The other thing I thought was if you use a screechy voice, especially with a pup, it makes them go into hyper mode, and what they really need is calm and measured. There's a family I know who have recently got a Rott pup who squeal at it in a high pitched voice all the time, which ramps this already excitable 5 month old into a frenzy of nipping and jumping!
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#405820 - 03/08/2018 01:15 AM |
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That made me cringe...and laugh. I hope never to walk into that room. Like nails on a board! And a laugh riot for me!
Thankfully we save baby voices for babies here!
Though I will admit my yes for Harry,is high and whoooooo!
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#405821 - 03/08/2018 05:10 AM |
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I also speak to my dogs in a higher voice than normal, but I never considered it as a baby voice. When I greet them or pass by them during the day I might probably look like the dog owner on the picture. But it is always just a short moment. I don't want to "overfeed" them with a constant chitchat. I don't know if a dog could endure this. Maybe it's only an interpretation, because I myself don't like a non-stop babble.
Though when I praise them for a good performance I must admit I produce spontaneaously more noise.
What I've noticed in different cases is that many men have problems to speak in a higher and warmer voice, perhaps because they think they will appear unmasculine. My husband and a friend speak very strict and unemocionally with the dogs. But both of them, when they think, nobody is around,, they change their voice into a high pitched and very lovingly one. I've caught them various times.
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#405826 - 03/08/2018 01:41 PM |
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Excellent! 
Reminds me of two separate things in my life. One was Ed Frawley explaining that men who have trouble speaking to the dog in a softer, upbeat voice might do much better simply switching from, for example, "no" to "nope." (I too found this to be very useful when I was a beginner marker trainer and wanted to convey more of a "let's try it again" than a harsh verbal correction.)
And the other was my father, a big "man's man" type (much like Ed, in fact) whose very voice answering the phone scared my potential junior high school boyfriends into hanging right up. But I heard him once talking to our pet duck out in the duck's pen, and no one on Tracey's clip could outdo his soft baby-talk.
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#405830 - 03/08/2018 10:43 PM |
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Excellent!
Reminds me of two separate things in my life. One was Ed Frawley explaining that men who have trouble speaking to the dog in a softer, upbeat voice might do much better simply switching from, for example, "no" to "nope." (I too found this to be very useful when I was a beginner marker trainer and wanted to convey more of a "let's try it again" than a harsh verbal correction.)
And the other was my father, a big "man's man" type (much like Ed, in fact) whose very voice answering the phone scared my potential junior high school boyfriends into hanging right up. But I heard him once talking to our pet duck out in the duck's pen, and no one on Tracey's clip could outdo his soft baby-talk.
I also got my "no" to "nope" from Ed through you. I could never get the "no" out without sounding harsh, in particular with Trooper my uber handler sensitive GSD.
I don't think I've given him a "no" in a couple of yrs now and he for sure is lots happier. 
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#405834 - 03/09/2018 02:09 AM |
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Excellent!
Reminds me of two separate things in my life. One was Ed Frawley explaining that men who have trouble speaking to the dog in a softer, upbeat voice might do much better simply switching from, for example, "no" to "nope." (I too found this to be very useful when I was a beginner marker trainer and wanted to convey more of a "let's try it again" than a harsh verbal correction.)
And the other was my father, a big "man's man" type (much like Ed, in fact) whose very voice answering the phone scared my potential junior high school boyfriends into hanging right up. But I heard him once talking to our pet duck out in the duck's pen, and no one on Tracey's clip could outdo his soft baby-talk.
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#405835 - 03/09/2018 05:00 AM |
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I knw the word "nope", but it never entered my mind tu use it in order to avoid a harsh "No". Though in English the "No" is very short and might easier happen that it sounds a bit too "unfriendly". The "Não" in Portuguese which I used for quite a long time is much more difficult to pronounce in a very harsh and maybe scaring sound.
Nevertheless I noticed that sometimes when I intended to be very firm it came out of my mouth like a nasty bark. 
Since then I say only Ä-ääää! They understand it perfectly like a "No", and it never comes out like a yap or growl.
After having read your comments I tried the "Nope" too and they understood it as if I had never used anything else. What is this??? Are dogs so spoketalented? Or is it perhaps because it is unconsciously accompanied with the same body signs as before?
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#405839 - 03/09/2018 10:32 PM |
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The situation along with body language could have very well had an influence.
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