Here is a link to an interview with the owner of the GSD that took Breed and I believe group at Westminster.

http://www.thedogplace.com/../library/Moses_Interview.htm

I find the 4th blue paragraph particularly troubling... these people truly believe they are improving the breed...

"He’s been bred to a dozen bitches that wouldn’t get a number. That’s the reason I bred to him to begin with; character and good hips. I had a beautiful bitch that was the top-scoring champion at our national in the herding trial but she wouldn’t get a number on one side and we almost weren’t gonna breed her and we decided to try this dog (smiling proudly down at his dog, Jimmy reached out and stroked Dallas on the cheek) and we got six OFA champions from the breeding."

:rolleyes: <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" /> :rolleyes:

Holy Sh--! As my Long Island friends might say, "unfrigginbelievable".

Poor, misguided souls.

I liked this part of the quote too, yet another reason to have the AKC rename their breed the American Shepherd or something to that effect:

Jim Moses,"But I mean, that’s why so many people think he’s European or could be German. See? (he cupped the dog’s face) it’s supposed to be a wedge-shaped head. We tried to get our standard amended even before this dog but people that were against it made it an adversarial thing , like we were going full German. And American’s being what they are, they wouldn’t have any part of it. We were going to be much more descriptive.”

God forbid the German Shepherd Dog follow the German (or FCI) standard.

I'm really excited about the part where he says that Dallas is doing both Sch and herding and excelling in *all phases* as are his progeny. Funny he failed to mention his scores. I am certain this was an oversight. Anybody know what club they train with???? Photos would be great!

You would think that his pimp, er I mean his handler would be really wanting people to come out and watch Dallas do his thing on the Sch field, what a great boost that would be for the american hyenna dog association.

Come on Joy, let us know what you really think. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" /> Funny thing is, I didn't see any of his Sch or herding titles next to his name when he was on tv. They must have forgotten - oops.

I'm not sure what was the worst thing about the show, that Dallas and the Mal did well, or that hamster/tribble??? on a rope in the best of show. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

Yikes! You actually watched Westminster ???

Now now. ack never lists Ger titles, so you wouldn't expect that. But, I would imagine the TD of Dallas's club is just fuming at the lack of recognition/appreciation. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

It's sort of like watching a car wreck - awful, but you just can't look away. Funny thing is, one of my bosses said to me, "what was up with that GSD, it's back was sloped and looked funny." And he's not even a GSD person.

You don't have to be a GSD person to recognize that there is something terribly wrong w/the american hyenna hybrid. I've yet to hear a single pet dog person say they liked that look.

If you want my brutally honest opinion (well, even if you don't, it's here), the ambred pimps like Moses are *not* of sound character nor temperament. There has got to be something fundamentally psychologically wrong w/any human who could intentionally breed bitches who can't OFA. And turn a completely deaf ear to the many vets who have spoken out against hock walking hyenna backed dogs. And went into rage reaction over the mere suggestion that it may be time to consider requiring a hip xray before breeding. IOW, you are dealing w/a small, but vocal minority who willingly, knowingly and intentionally makes breeding decisions that will hurt innocent animals. I cannot get my mind around that. It's one thing when someone stupidly breeds a litter w/out OFAs several generations back. It's quite another when it's done with full knowledge of the risk of harm.

My heart just breaks for all of those poor, innocent puppies being brought into the world b/c everybody will have to have a Dallas puppy, the hell w/OFAs. And what about the poor bitches whose hips were too crappy to OFA? How painful is that whelping going to be?

Yeah, I am making fun at this pimp and his smirk. But, it really hurts to think of those poor puppies and the damage being done to our breed.

This makes me very sad. But some good may come out of it, this guy is about the worst representative the ambred fanciers could have, shooting his mouth off about Sch and herding and boasting about breeding dysplastic bitches. This could bite them where it hurts.

May Jimmy Moses have to face his own Karma someday . . .

Now, now, the kerry that won this time is not a hamster, nor a tribble. Besides, I feel kinship with all terriers. The bishon before that did looked somewhat like a stuffed animal but it's exactly the way it's supposed to look like. I did hate bishons for a while.

It can't be that hard to find out if Dallas/Kismet has Sch title or not. I thought he can't possibly, but now I am curious. And his back looked by far the best of all American show line dogs. At least they are crowning the best among the freaks not the worst. Imagine if he won the BIS.

Moses was showing ASS dogs back in the early 80's when I was showing terriers. Unfortunately, his BS holds a lot of weight with the show dog people. I've had two Kerries in my life. They are GREAT obd dogs with the right handler.