Hi Team

Im looking at a pup from a litter in New Zealand just thought Id run it past everyone.

Its the Task x Kayla litter

Heres the link
http://www.sp.co.nz/heisenberg/litters.html

Anyone had a pup from either line, just trying to get a feel for what to expect

Thanks
Bryce

Bryce I sent you a PM......B

What do you want in a dog, because this litter and the Czech litters you were looking at are very different.

Thanks Rob

A dog with a bit of hardness and a natural edge is what Im after. Is this not what schutzhund in its original form was? (please correct me if Im wrong!) Im leaning towards czech lines but am pretty new to it all so any advise would be appreciated. Dont want to start "Battle of the lines" but please try and answer my original post too. Just trying to get a feel between different lines. I am looking at 3 or 4 litters due around the same time. I have been in contact with Chris Jones out of Australia as he has couple of Excellent litters planned and he strikes me as being straight up guy. He has been very helpful.

http://www.users.bigpond.com/kampk9/litters.htm

Thanks Chris and Rob for the help so far.


Bryce

I'd expect to see easy to handle dogs from Task. Dogs with a lot of prey drive, very clear heads, great grips, and showing a lot of willingness to please the handler.

That seems to be the norm for he and his brother Troll, and also what I'd expect to see from the dogs in their pedigrees (Fado and Orry).

Dares to the Gero daughter sounds really nice.

I think Dave Sambell has a boy out of Darez and Fanta from Chris.

I didn't know Chris was going to put Dares to Caxa (she is the Gero Blatenskeho daughter). The pup I have as Wai Boon mentioned is out of Dares and a Tom PS daughter. If Dares is being put to Caxa it sounds like a combination with a lot of potential. Bryce - which litter to choose is always a tough decision (wouldn't it be great if we all had the time and money to take more than one!) You mention an interest in hard dogs with an edge for schutzhund - well litters with a czech influence should give you that. Of course "hardness" can also be defined as the ability to take and recover from a correction or stress - but I'm guessing bryce also meant the ability to produce agression as well. However the Task litter should in theory be very good for high scoring schutzhund trials - from speaking to other people in Aus I'd concur with what VanCamp said about these dogs - full grips, easy to handle etc. Although many DDR/czech dogs are titled I believe west german lines (which is where most of the belgian stuff goes back to) are MORE selectively bred/trained for schutzhund specifically (as opposed to police/border patrol etc). I think which way to go is really comes down to your priorities Bryce and the dog's purpose.

Thanks Dave

Hi Bryce,

I had Task living in my house a couple of months in Norway. He is a great dog and is ALWAYS ready to work. Lot of temperament, high in drive, but easy to handle and has a super characther <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> Task is now staying at Kennel Midälvaland in Sweden and has alreday sired 12 litters in one year. I have only heard positive things about his offspring in Sweden. Here is the link to the kennel he is staying at; http://go.to/midalvaland
If you want to know more about Task, you can e-mail his owner Gilbert Coudron cg0987@skynet.be<br />Gilbert was world champ. with his father Natz in -93