Robert VanCamp Webboard User Reg: 11-28-2001
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OK, I'm dumb. . .can somebody help me out with this one? No links to complicated gene sites please, I found enough already.
I wanna know, generally, what colors you get with these combinations in GSDs. You would think I could find that on the web somewhere black and white, spelled out for me. . .but noooooo. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" />
I bred my sable Czech male to my sable Czech female and got 75% sable and 25% black. I expected this as the father of my female was black and the mother of my male was black.
About the only thing I know for certain is that from two blacks you only get black.
The GSD has a recessive black gene. The 75% sable 25% Balck would be the exact statistical percentages expected from this breeding.
Mother Sb Father Sb
Off spring: SS Sb Sb bb= 75% sable (50% with recessive black gene), 25% Black
Van Camp,
It will always be complicated formulas to get the colors because you have to account for the genes involved, including any non-expressed recessives. The more genes involved, the more complicated it is.
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OK another colour question - what is a "blue" GSD?
A lady was showing me her dog and proudly proclaimed that he was a blue - kind of looked like a dusty bi-colour to me. Is this an accepatable colour for sheperds? or is it like blue dobermanns and white sheperds?
Partly there tig.. The Blue IS an acceptable color in Dobermans, as well as what is called fawn, however blue and liver GSD's are a dilution and are not desireable. White ones are just that, white...
I was wondering if the blue and fawn dobbermanns are more prevalent in show line dogs? There are colour splits in other breeds as to show/work lines and I wondered if this was the case as most working dobermanns you see in pictures seem to be black/reds. The GSD I saw was a show lines dog.
I showed (terriers) in the breed ring for 15+ yrs and never saw blue or fawn Dobes in the ring. I have heard of them being shown, but as with the ASS, if it doesn't look like everything else in the ring, "it ain't no good". Also heard the blue and fawn varieties have big skin problems.
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