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#50712 - 02/20/2002 09:19 PM |
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OK. . . I can't even believe I am posting this here. :rolleyes: BUT, I'm doing it for my mother. Why the hell she wants one of these dogs I don't know. We have always had GSDs, I think maybe it is alzheimers or something. I can't explain it.
Here goes, does anybody know of a few working Australian Shepherd dogs/breeders out there. I have seen some compete in Schutzhund and Herding trials, but I don't know dick about them. How hard is it gonna be to find a good working prospect. An all round working prospect.
Damn that was painfull. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />
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#50713 - 02/20/2002 11:27 PM |
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Better off to look for an Australian Cattle dog than an Australian Shepard. Much more likly to find what you want there (can't swear to the gene pool in the US). Cant remeber the last time I saw a working Australian Shepard.
Mick.
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#50714 - 02/21/2002 05:09 PM |
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You can try the National Stock Dog Association. They register all types of working herding breeds.
Word of warning, Aussies are like BCs. Neither are the easiest dogs to live with. Way to intelligent and neurotic. Also, they can be very aggressive, and aren't the type to warn you. They'll be fine until their not and nail you.
I work as a vet tech and Aussies and BCs are two of the worst breeds to handle. The only people I know who are really happy with the breed are those who are super competative and want to win at performance sports or herding. They work the crap out of the dogs so they can't get into trouble, and are willing to deal with all the idiosnycracies of the breed.
Our clinic never recommends them as pets. We figure if you are an experienced dog handler you are educated and wouldn't be questioning us.
Good luck to your mom and I hope she's ready.
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#50715 - 02/21/2002 05:27 PM |
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Word of warning? Way to intelligent and neurotic, very aggressive, need lots of work to keep em busy. HMmmmmmmm. . . I wonder if she is ready for this?
I hope that a lifetime of experience with working line GSDs- very high drive, very aggressive, often dominate, and they WILL nail you if you don't know what you are doing, will be enough experience for my mother to handle the little Aussie. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />
No joke, we are not "pet" owners over here. That sounds perfect for her. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> Good advice though, you must work for a great clinic.
Does the Stock Association have a website? You got the link? I'd love to have it. I guess I could do a search myself, though. :rolleyes:
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#50716 - 02/22/2002 05:26 PM |
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All I can come up with is an email address.
Its nsda@locl.net
Hope this helps. And I'd be interested to hear how your mother and her new aussie do together. Also, would be very interested if she persues Schutzhund with the aussie.
Skipper
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#50717 - 02/22/2002 07:21 PM |
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It's been done, the Schutzhund thing, I've seen it, only once though. They seem to have a little bit of fire in em', should be fun.
I am gonna e-mail these jokers and see what happens.
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#50718 - 05/27/2003 03:27 AM |
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Bayshores Eggs Benidict (yeah, weird name) is a Sch111 Australian shepherd. I think other people are starting to think about Aussies in Schutzhund (personally I prefer my Akitas and Molossers, but my sis likes em). Just thought I would post this, bye.
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#50719 - 05/27/2003 10:21 AM |
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On page 9 of Ivan's book "Advanced Schutzhund", there's a pic of Viki Bartley's Australian Shepherd Scrap's Rusty Lugar, SchH III... doing a hold and bark.
Keep in mind that most Aussies are showline. It's a bit of a minefield to find a working Aussie. Not unlike someone first getting into GSDs and looking for a working line GSD.
If I were you, I'd also try posting your inquiry on the Schutzhund list, the Farmcollie list, the Herders-L list, and/or one or more of the Aussie lists.
Laura
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#50720 - 05/27/2003 11:10 AM |
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Hey Robert,
What, you're not just gonna have your mom work Fetz's sister? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
Ok, Aussies were popular in DVG for awhile, so I've actually seen alot of them work. Vickey Bartley ( sp?) out of Texas did pretty well with them, altho at the first USA HOT trial, she seemed to be getting back into GSD's. You can get in touch with her at : ausgssch@flash.net<br /> Andy Garcia from the Ocala, Fl area also did pretty well with his male Aussie but I've lost his number <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />
I'd much rather work an Australian Cattle Dog myself, I think it'd be alot easy to find the type of dog you want in that breed than in the Aus Sheps, just my opinion of course. I'll be trying one out some day in the far future I'm sure. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
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#50721 - 05/27/2003 12:39 PM |
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Like the gsd there can be a HUGE differnce in the working line auzzie vs. the AKC/CKC show auzzie.
I have several freinds who have auzzies and can likely piont you in the right direction. (they have both, working line and show line). There is LOTS of things to find out about the breed!! Health can be a huge thing. As well...there is controversy in some of the working line auzzies (people breeding in some border collie etc, etc)
You could also likely find out a lot and talk to a lot of knowledgable people by going to an ASCA show/trial. This could be *loosly* compared to a SchH/Sieger show/trial. They have a conformation part and then their 'working' part which I beleive consists of obedience and herding.
If you would like thier names and emails, let me know.
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