Can someone please explain what a coated GSD is. I have a female GSD and I wish to breed her. She comes from Enzo Manipo and has great drive but I'm afraid she may have what I've heard is a faulty coat. What is everyones oppinion.Thanks Chris

When a person says a coated GSD, they normally mean a long haired GSD.

A true long coat will have very, very little or usually no undercoat (the fluffy, kinky fur under the coarser, straight outercoat). They also have, of course, longer fur especially on the tail and trousers and they will have tufts of hair by their ears and maybe between their toes.

A long stock coat GSD will have a longer coat than a normal coat, but usually not as long as a long coat, and he will have an undercoat. They still have the fluffy tails, long trousers, and tufty ears.

A normal, or stock coated GSD, will have the normal shorter coat (length will vary slightly, as in all the coat types), will have a nice undercoat, no ear tufts. The tail and trousers are longer than the rest of the body hair, but not excessively long.

A mole coated GSD is a dog with too short of a coat. I personally see this quite a bit in backyard bred lines. I have never seen this (not to say it doesn't exist, of course) in working or show lines.

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Hi: I see nothing wrong with a long coated GS. Our pup was born with what appeared to be a fluffy coat (really strange looking). He was the only one in the little to be born this way. We fell in love with his "differentness" and are glad that we did. He has a medium length coat with tufts by the ears, feathers on his rear and a brushy tail. Other than that he just appears to have a thick coat (under hair is thick as well). He is gorgeous! Most folks (since he is a silver sable) don't recognize him as a GS.

It is strange that he was the only one in the litter, but that's how genetics work. His father was long haired (much longer than our pups) and his mother was short haired.

Long coats are acceptable, even in show, but you don't see them that often in the show ring. When you take a look at the sables being bred back in germany in the 1930's and through the 50's there were long coats and sable was the predominant color.

I don't know how folks feel on this site about long hair, but is it not unusual. It's harder on the dog in hot,dry or moist climates. A lot more itching and coat care (or so we've found).

Linda Britton wrote: "Long coats are acceptable, even in show, but you don't see them that often in the show ring."

A long coat is a disqualifying fault for the GSD!!!!!!

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There is no reason to breed a coated dog. I also don't think there is any reason to breed a dog that has the coat gene to another dog that has the coat gene. Accidents, I would forgive, but if you know there is a chance don't do it.

There is a reason there is a breed standard. I don't much give a crap about show titles or conformation achievements, but at the very minimum we should try to stay within the breed standard.

Indeed, one reason for the high incidence of coated work dogs one sees in Europe is the fact that they cannot be Kor'ed...thus are not much use for anything else as far as breeders are concerned. I like them, but they are outside the standard.

I have a long coat (of the true variety with no undercoat). Absolutely gorgeous dog with a golden temperament, wonderful PET. She is 10 months old and will be spayed when I get around to it. She will never be bred. There is nothing wrong with long coats, but like Van Camp said there is no reason to breed them. They happen enough on their own without intentionally increasing the fault.

Long coats (whether true long coats or long stock coats) are considered faulty because the coat is less weatherproof. My girl shivers if it is below 25 degrees (and I live in North Dakota) and her coat absorbs water like a sponge. She also picks up dirt and debris like velcro. Nice working dog...I spend hours WORKING on her coat after a walk in the country <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> .

I'm not asking if it's o.k. to breed a coated dog.
I'm simply askig what is a coated gsd looks like.This bitch has already been breed once buy her former owners.None of the puppys were long haired.She simply has a strange coat and if she was a coated dog I would have her fixed in order to maintain a breed standard.The first answer helped but a bit to technical for me.Her hair is very thin but there is a whooole lot of it!She has a slight tuft at the sides of her head but not anymore than I've seen on the other czech dogs.I do know that coated dogs are a fault dog no matter what someones personal oppinion is the breed standard is the breed standard.

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About how long is her hair? If it is very thin it is likely that she has little to no undercoat. The tufts on the side of the face are normal as GSDs usually have slightly longer hair around the throat and cheeks as well. If she doesn't have ear tufts she is MOST LIKELY not longhair, but a thin coat would concern me.

The hair that she has is thin but she has a lot of it.In other words it's not long it's like she has more folicals than most.And there is no wispy hair on the ears.It just unlike any coat my other dogs have its vrey fine hair.My other dogs have a coarse top lair.She has this only the hair is not coarse its fine. She also has a finer under coat.
I'm just a bit puzzled.Her father is V-Enzo Manipo who is owned by Rod Thompkins.Rod said that the dog is fine but I've never seen a coat Quite like hers.