Car Aggression
#56333 - 02/04/2005 06:18 PM |
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My dog is not car aggressive but she will take a bite in the car and jump through the window to get a bite. I read Ed's article regarding how to get the dog to be car aggressive but wanted to know if anyone had other techniques that worked for them. Also when I say "car aggressive" I mean when someone gets anywhere near my car she tries to turn the car over to engage them. I already know she can turn a cage over.
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#56334 - 02/05/2005 12:12 PM |
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Brennan, Where did you find Ed's article on car aggression. I tried to find it & couldn't. Thanks.
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#56335 - 02/05/2005 01:45 PM |
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I'd strongly suggest for ya'll to step back a moment and think about what you're planning to train a dog to do.
Most dogs are already territorial while in a car. Training your dog to further this trait has a lot of down side, and unless you have real world need for this, I'd advise against it.
And once the dog's trained for this, you're stuck with that behavior, believe me.
I know a few upper level handlers that trained their dogs for this, and they later regretted it to a man.
And I always advise my clients not to train for open aggression for cars ( we train anti-car jacking scenario's, but that is *very* different than what has been suggested here ) and so far about 90% of those that demanded this training have told me later that they wished that we had skipped it.
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#56336 - 02/05/2005 01:52 PM |
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Please note that I have moved this post from the SchH area to the Protection Dog area where it belongs.
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#56337 - 02/05/2005 02:13 PM |
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Amen to what Will said.
I can't offer training advice, but I can tell you that it is a PAIN IN THE HINEY.
My female is extrememly aggressive over HER VEHICLE. Doesn't matter if it is my car or not. It is nice if you need to leave your car in NYC, but it is not so cool when you can't go pay for your gas without your car rocking like there is a lunatic in there. Especially when she is flipping out over an older person who probably has a bad ticker. :rolleyes: Doesn't help that I have black window tint, so they don't know there is a dog there till she goes off... Scare the beejeebers out of people, for nothing.
Once the switch is flipped, all you can do is put a bark collar on to stop it. Even that won't stop the bouncing around like a loon.
She wasn't trained this way, apparently its quite genetic. Her mom was the same way. Her daughter that lives with me started this early on as well. They never rode together, so it was not a learned behavior.
At any rate... spend some time around a dog like this, and see if you like it before you go there. I suspect you will change your mind.
it is also fun when you are driving and pass someone j-walking and the dog goes apechit. Trust me, it will only happen occasionally, so you won't be prepared, and you will likely have hot coffee in your hand at the time, :rolleyes: or be dressed for a special event.
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#56338 - 02/05/2005 08:33 PM |
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Another good reason against having a car aggressive dog....interiors are expensive. My retired PSD ate 6 police car interiors and one (and last) of my personally owned vehicle interiors. Had 3 punks agitate him when I was only gone for 2 minutes. Came back to a car that looked like 2 gorillas had a pillow fight inside. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />
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#56339 - 02/05/2005 08:43 PM |
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Originally posted by Anne Jones:
Brennan, Where did you find Ed's article on car aggression. I tried to find it & couldn't. Thanks. My error, it's on his Q & A. It's been a while since I read it. Go to Q & A on Training Police Service Dogs and it's question #10.
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#56340 - 02/05/2005 08:46 PM |
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To anyone suggesting not to do it, I have had my mind made for a long time that this is what I wanted to do. She's not much of a barker but she is very alert when anyone is near the car. The interior I'm not worried about because she is in a crate, while I'm training she will not be crated.
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#56341 - 02/06/2005 10:09 AM |
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I was not interested in traning this behavior. My dog is quiet in her crate in the truck unless someone bangs on the truck or pulls on the door handles. If she hears the click of the locks unlocking she will not make noise, since she knows that it is me opening the doors & entering or loading in the back area. I just wanted to read what Ed had to say about it. That's all. I have read so very many of the articles over the last coupple of years, but had not see that one. Just curious.
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#56342 - 02/06/2005 11:47 PM |
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Originally posted by Will Rambeau:
Please note that I have moved this post from the SchH area to the Protection Dog area where it belongs.
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Moderator Hey, I thought Sch dogs were protection dogs <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> j/k
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