Does anyone feel the male and female dogs should be separated in sports competition?
Has this idea ever come up before?

are you talking dogs or people? - sorry,couldn't resist <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

Are you talking about less strict requirements for the females or ??

I mean separate them when ranks are rewarded.
This way people could go all the way internationally and win as the top female. There are very few exceptions when it comes to females competing on the same level I've heard, but most importantly it would help the breeding progress.
Even though there's politics in anything and sport doesn't necessarily mean a dog is top quality it would however I think help show the top females out there, in any breed. I'm not a competitor or breeder but it makes me wonder.

People this way could see what was out there and who they wanted to breed to, etc. I guess I ask this question or wonder about the idea because I think the best females produce the top offspring statistically. Just a thought.

They could still find the best females in the results listing couldn't they. Still--an interesting concept.

What happens if in a trial the first 6 dogs are male and the 7th is a female? But if they were separated by sex, then that 7th dog would be touted as the top female. Is that female actually equal to the top male? A bit deceiving, dont you think?

Your right they could, I think it might put the spot light on the females a bit more in a way. Also I've never known a breeder really well enough to ask them this but I'm sure many times they always have everyone wanting males. Many may also have trouble selling every one. Even though that reason alone doesn't not make it alright, it seems to me like it would be the greater good in the long run. People want male dogs because they know they have the best chance to get the result they want, whether that be PSD, PPD, or Sport.

I think alot of female pups get passed over because of this, if there was more recoginition in owning one it might pick up and therefore the result would be to put more out there in competition. This would increase the number available to compare and get the best. Most people want to win, and this would help that I think.

It's a bit like this, if you have only so many females to choose from because they are not as common in sport then if you had many more competiting it would make the best ones more elite, because they'd be competing with many more rather than they have. It's easy to pick the top three out of ten, pick the top three out of 100 and then your going to get some top dogs. More so anyway. I hope this explained it better, sometimes it's easier for me to say then write it out, lol. What can I say? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

I see your point Dobermann, and you're right they wouldn't be the top dog but they would be the top female, the award would be serparate. Then they would move on to compete with other females. I don't think this would take off overnight but the more people who compete would take interest into the female if they knew they had a good chance at being at least more competitive. Maybe? I don't know.

Also guys, this idea just came off the top of my head, so I haven't been working all the flaws out. I just thought it was something worth discussing. Thanks though for responding because I agree with your questions.

Brad, you might get more owners of females competing their bitches. Best male or best female the standard should stay the same.

If you look there are a lot of high quality females out there. It's just the males are more popular. I plan on changing that view.

Well it's just an idea, when it comes to changing the standard I'm not thinking of that.
I guess I just figured the more females that are put out there, five maybe ten years from now I wonder where it would lead. It's easier to find the best when you increase the numbers put out there I would think. That usually goes with anything, that's why I wondered. It's strictly on an improving the breed kind of thing, or at least that's what made me think of it.

Most of you have been alot further in sport competition and know all the ins and outs of it. Since I've not competed there's still alot I don't know. That's why I was asking. But like anything it never hurts to ask, lol. Thanks for answering my questions.

Just out of curiousity how much of a chance do females in sport have in winning nationals and further up? Has there ever been a female that went all the way or much farther than normal. I know there's always exceptions.