Hi
When a judge scores a dog in protection as "pronounced" what is he seeing that separates that dog from the others?
Do you think the trial helper challenges each dog equally or does he escalate the challenge with certain dogs.
If a dog is familiar with the helper wouldn't he show more courage and does the judge take this into consideration?
These days, "pronounced" simply means "meets the minimum standards". The dog has to show significant issues to drop down to sufficient, and has to be REALLY bad to be insufficient. Most helpers do try to be consistent. If anything, they tend to help a weak dog rather than escalating the challenge for a strong dog. Yes, the dog is more comfortable on his own familiar helpers, but the judge can't assess that. He can only judge what he sees - thus the "home field advantage".
Then how are we to know whether a dog is really strong or not? Videos can be edited.
Are there certain judges that are tougher than others? I guess if a dog is many times a SchH 2 or 3 on different fields maybe that would tell us something.
I ask because I was reading an old thread that mentioned in the "olden'days Schutzhund was just a preliminary to other things like PPD <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
Erin
I've seen that comment that it used to be a stepping stone to "other things" several times as well, but it must have been REALLY olden days, cuz it's always been just a sport for as long as I've been around it. If you're not a cop, what "other things" are there for the dog to go on to?
You shouldn't really judge a dog by his trial work. That's a picture that has been created over many many months. You can see chinks in the armor if it is a national event - strong helpers, strange environment, nervous handler, etc. Then sometimes you see the insecurities. Otherwise, best to find out what the dog is like away from competition.
1)Campaign for the return of the 10 point system.
2)Begin to politic for a koerung type system like the Deutcher Malinois Club uses.
3)See the dog work for yourself.
probably a lot more things than this also could be used to seperate the character of the dog from the "sport"
The "sport" has long since stopped playing any more than a coursery role in selecting breeding stock for work.
How naive of me to think "pronounced" meant better than most <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />
Too bad standards have been lowered so much.
People pay big $$$ for pups based on the trial results of their parents.
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