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#61083 - 02/17/2003 07:29 PM |
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I apologise in advance if this is a dumb question :rolleyes:
I am training my dog (9 month old terrier)and she sits, comes, heels, drops etc. However, I also am teaching her "tricks" eg: beg, roll over, shake paw etc.
My question is, should the tricks be classed as obedience - in as much as I have told her to do something and I expect her to do it 1st time (assuming she does know it).
....and if she doesn't do it (the trick) 1st time, should I repeat the request, enforce the request, or withdraw the treat?.
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#61084 - 02/17/2003 07:46 PM |
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Clasify it as you want. But one command or correction/ or no action, no treat. If you let the dog get away with not obaying on one thing ,others will follow. Dont give the command unless your willing to iforce it.
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#61085 - 02/17/2003 08:46 PM |
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Tricks are degrading to dogs. Can you do a trick for me?
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#61086 - 02/17/2003 08:54 PM |
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Well then I guess I better stop teaching my pup to retreive beer bottles.... I was just waiting for him to get a little bigger to teach him to open the fridge.
I bet that is a trick you didn't find degrading Patrick. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />
At nine months old the only corrections should be withholding the treat and possibly guiding the dog to the proper position with the treat as a lure. All the tricks I have taught in the past were taught without any compulsion. Dogs like the attention and the treats.
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#61087 - 02/17/2003 09:13 PM |
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Ok, ask once (command eg: sit or trick eg: roll over)- and expect it to be done (assuming she knows it). If she doesn't do it, guide into the required position, or withdraw treat.
I've never really thought of tricks as degrading!, she seems to enjoy doing them - and friends are pretty much impressed.
Must add "get me a beer" to the repetoire <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />
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#61088 - 02/27/2003 11:58 AM |
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hey julie , whether you call them tricks or obedience isn't important. what is important is that you are spending quality time with your dog , which makes him ( her ) more pleasant to be around . i taught my BC things that would useful in our every day lives together . i am a professional ski patroller . the dog does avalanche SAR ( not a TRICK ) , and other things that make my job easier . so if beer drinking is part of your daily routine , then by all means ....
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#61089 - 02/27/2003 12:46 PM |
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I would enforce what you asked of you dog even if it is just a trick.Just remember do keep it fun!With my kelpie and her tricks I usually break it up into steps so that if she doesn't understand a part of it I can go back and help her with that part and not the whole trick.Once she knows it I want her to do it always when she is asked just like in obedience.I wasn't much into teaching tricks before I got my kelpie but I find if you have a real active dogs it helps to keep their mind busy also,not just their bodies.Just careful what you teach,I taught mine to open fridge and get drinks out for us and she has decided that when I am in a different room that it is cool to open the fridge and help herself,now I have to inforce that she is to open the fridge only when asked.What a goof!
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#61090 - 02/27/2003 04:15 PM |
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Obedience or tricks. They should be taught with the same positive attitude, and the same expectations of performance. My "cute" little terriers do all kinds of(degrading :rolleyes: ) tricks. That doesn't stop them from being the baddest little mouthfuls of teeth when they'er in the ground with fox, coon, or groundhog 6in in front of them.
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#61091 - 02/27/2003 07:08 PM |
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I like that one.....retrieving beer is good. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />
but I would classify that as a command because it serves an important purpose. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />
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#61092 - 02/27/2003 07:31 PM |
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Any command you teach your dog is obedience. Many tricks serve as a useful purpose like get a beer (service dog) <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> turn out the lights, open the door, get the newspaper etc. It’s not degrading, some dogs like to "work." <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
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