I'm curious as to why American Street Ring isn't more popular than Schutzhund here in the United States. I couldn't help reading about it, as a more practical "test" for police service dogs, and REAL personal protection dogs. I understand it's still a sport, but the tests of nerve, defense, and courage are much more demanding. It focuses more on whether or not your dog will protect you in the real world, versus points for looking pretty. I'm not knocking Schutzhund, but it makes sense to me and I'm sure many others that ASR is a truer test for REAL working dogs, designed to weave out all but the best. And that alone would improve our breeding programs. Doesn't that make sense?

I'm sure many of you are already familiar with American Street Ring, but here's a website with a good article about it; check it out.

http://www.workingmalinois.net/art4.html

It says malinois, but it's actually non breed-specific; suitable for any dog that is capable.

Also, if there are any out there, I'd like to hear from those who have witnessed an ASR trial or participated in it to separate what's written in articles to reality. Thanks.

WAIT I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS, LET ME GET MY THOUGHTS TOGETHER.

HEY!! I stated the accusations about being a true test for real life protection sitations & a true test for law enfocement, under malinois post some months back. No rely from any one as if ASR don't exist. I attend some of ted hoppe's function & had a good time. He gave me a warm welcome. Some thing most Organizations don't do here when there is a newbie involved.Man that ted is comical LOL. My buddys' Dutch Shepherd was the first & only dog to be titled ASR III since the revisement too the rules. This dog name is Phantom. He got hurt at this show & still acted as nothing was wrong & finished."A TUFF DOG THAT PHANTOM" I may be murdered for this but. it seem too me that it needed a little more finances & supporters behind the show out fit.It should be bigger than what I seen.It lacked ARS & protection phanenalia,Venues.But then again that has nothing to do with the way the show went & the exercises.Only adds to the excitedment while seeing good performances. Or nor does it has any thing too do with ASR dogs not being tuff. As for the way it was organized,I was Impressed. Decoys were out of site >.GOoooo >>>>JASON>>>SCOTT>>>>>>>DOGMAN DAVE>>>>HEY THOSE ARE MY BUDDIES.
Hey hope to title my son "NICO VAN GUARD" in ASR some day soon. Nico is a tuff dog from a EX...Police line breed by COLVIN BRANNAKA. Stupid drives & nerves. A must see & have type of dog. How ever nice too hear ASR Lover's are out there. We train for real life here in jacksonville,fl. There are three outfitts invovled in ASR type training if you are near here.
UNTIL THEN, BITE HARD & DIGG DEEP NICO,BRAVO.

I'm curious as to why American Street Ring isn't more popular than Schutzhund here in the United States.


Thats not a tuffy. Schutzhund has been an established institution for what. . .nearly a century now? It has been in the US for a quarter of a century (at least as an organized dogsport, there have been SchH dogs and trainers in the US since before WWI)

So, in comparison, we have ASR. It has been around for a few years at most? It doesn't have the legitimacy of Schutzhund (as a bitesport that can be a very important thing)or the support of some of the largest breed club organizations in America.


Not that ASR is a bad thing, it may very well be cool as a polar bear's toenails.

Ulysee, I agree ASR probably lacks support as I believe it's a fairly new sport developed in the early 90's(correct me if I'm wrong). But I'm definately a fan now knowing it involves realistic scenarios. I also found that it doesn't opperate in clubs, but as a network instead.

Robert, is that first sentence all you read? Keep reading...

I read dinkus, that was a question. . .so I gave an answer.


Did you mean something else by saying, "I'm curious as to why American Street Ring isn't more popular than Schutzhund here in the United States."?


Did you mean why aren't more Schutzhund people interested in ASR? I've got an answer for that as well, but its in the form of a question. How many Schutzhund people are really interested in the actual working ability of the dog and how many Schutzhund folks are only interested in the ability of the dog to score well?

So why then has PSA grown so damm fast and big? Why has PSA left ASR, KNPV and Ring in it's dust in the States?

Well KNPV isn't available, and by absolutely no stretch of the imagination is PSA more prolific than French Ring. FR is the second largest dogsport in the US.


But I don't really understand your point?

I'm not bashing protection sports, I'm just giving answers to questions asked. I like PP training.