I've been using the Basic obedience vidoes with my 18month Rotti/Lab mix. He knows the come command (I use "Here")on leash and at distance. However he never comes at a full run, except for once or twice when I had him on a sit-stay at the park in visual/audio range of other dogs, at times it's like pouring molasses or something.
I'll place him in a sit-stay/down-stay go 50-100ft behind a tree and recall (try to make it fun and animated as Ed points out). He will come but it's more of a jog, not a run.
Is this a drive issue or something I'm doing wrong. He broke the down-stay once and took off for the other dogs, it was a run but not a full fast run. (I went to him, he had the 20ft line on, and corrected him until we got back to the point he broke the stay). I use food w/him, he's not very toy motivated unless it's some other dogs'.
I'm considering the Drive & Focus video should I move to/add this at this point. He does know all the commands, though I can't say they're 100% proofed.
As luck would have it, I post this question and what happens? I get home take him out to the park and do a few minutes of training. Jumps a few park benches, more energetic than usual. Then proceed to do a sit-stay and recall, and I actually got a fast recall, a full run. I was so excited I repeated it few times. Again full runs.
I just made some new treats for him, chicken jerky dipped in duck fat. I don't know if that was it, because this morning I got the usual jog (maybe a tad bit faster) using the chicken treats.
I've had him since he was 10 weeks old, I'm the one who feeds him and does training with him. and I've used a combination of compulsion (prong corrections) and motivation (treats) and progressed from a 6ft leash to 20ft long line to 50ft light line. I've to stepped back to the 6ft leash (during morning walks) to rework getting an "automatic" recall.
I feel he has more people motivation than food or prey so I don't want to over correct him to diminish what little drive he does have as far as coming to me .
Patrick
What worked for me was to run backwards after saying come.
As soon as I start to run he would break into a run to me.
When he gets to you, lots of praise treat etc. So breaking
into a run will be natural for him and you can start fading out your running backwards.
I think your right about backing up a few steps. When on the six foot leash, say come and run backwards. You want him to get to the point that comming to you is automatic where he doesn't even think about it, just starts running to you.
He's not too toy crazy, unless it's some other dogs, but I'll give it a try w/my wife helping. I'm really trying to find out how best to develop drive in him.
You know i have the same problem. I could stand on my head waving toys into my GSD face and he couldn`t care less. I have to use food but not any old treat will work. I have to have something very special to get him motivated
The past couple of evenings I've been getting a full run recalls in the park (grassy, he knows it leads to playtime). During the mornings, more jog/slow trot (concrete sidewalk, feed time and off to work for me).
I realize when I put him in a down-stay and he can see and hear dogs in the distance (200-300ft) the recall is very quick. Should I use this as motivation at this phase?
I know there's a chance of him taking off, I do have my "invisible" 50ft light line as well as a 20ft leash on him
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