Mike Bishop wrote 05/09/2005 09:52 AM My dilemma #73988 - 05/09/2005 09:52 AM
Mike Bishop Webboard User Reg: 01-17-2005 Posts: 139 Loc: CO Offline	Okay, I'll try to keep this short. My wife's adult son has an 18-month-old male pitbull that he is no longer able to take care of (actually he never has taken good care of this dog)....to make a long story short, my wife brought the dog to our house on Friday and she absolutely "loves him" and wants to keep this dog. My problem is: I have 2 male GSDs -- one 3 and 1/2 and the other 8 months. I have been grooming my puppy for protection work and I think he is doing pretty well so far. I have a small house with a small yard and fenced dog run. So far I have basically kept my dogs separated from the APBT (who seems to be a very nice dog). My question, especially to those who have owned pitbulls (I have zero experience with APBTs), is this situation workable or will the dogs always need to be kept separated (not an easy task at my house)? I really don't want another dog but my wife adores him......ahhh the joys of marriage. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> In all your ways acknowledge Him, And He shall direct your paths. Proverbs 3:6
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Tracy Brown wrote 05/09/2005 10:03 AM Re: My dilemma [Re: Mike Bishop ] #73989 - 05/09/2005 10:03 AM
Tracy Brown Webboard User Reg: 12-20-2004 Posts: 381 Loc: Mississippi Offline	Short answer yes they need to be separated. If, you let the three interact they will try to establish the pack order and probably the youngest will be the one to get hurt. It's going to happen one will challenge the other and dog fight on your hands. Read Ed's article on multiple dogs in a household. There is alot of information there and I hope it helps.
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Will Rambeau wrote 05/09/2005 10:05 AM Re: My dilemma [Re: Mike Bishop ] #73990 - 05/09/2005 10:05 AM
Will Rambeau Moderator Reg: 01-25-2003 Posts: 5983 Loc: Idaho Offline	Three male dogs equal an eventual fight for dominance, no matter what you do, if they're allowed contact with each other. Mike, you seem to have put in a lot of time and effort with your male GSD's towards your eventual training goals. To bring a previously semi-neglected dog into your household pack would be something to avoid. No upside, and a high potential downside. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> Buy your wife some nice jewelry or something instead.... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> The Fetz dog: http://www.leerburg.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/79673/page/25
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Chris Duhon wrote 05/09/2005 10:15 AM Re: My dilemma [Re: Mike Bishop ] #73991 - 05/09/2005 10:15 AM
Chris Duhon Webboard User Reg: 08-14-2004 Posts: 702 Loc: Southern Louisiana Offline	I'll take the risk an offer an opinion <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />. Yes, keep them seperated, you and your wife will have to just divide time to be with all 3 dogs. Especially if your training your puppy for work. I would recommend small, Brief tightly supervised interaction sessions, so they won't atleast try to eat through the kennels to get at each other. But I wouldn't leave them alone. With 3 males someone will opt for control of the pack you helped form and with your pit as any dog I guess, but especially your pit, if your other males become dominant or attempt to it will "Turn On" your bulldog, and from there on you will always have a power keg. COL Nathan R. Jessup for President
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Chris Duhon wrote 05/09/2005 10:18 AM Re: My dilemma [Re: Will Rambeau ] #73992 - 05/09/2005 10:18 AM
Chris Duhon Webboard User Reg: 08-14-2004 Posts: 702 Loc: Southern Louisiana Offline	Quote: Buy your wife some nice jewelry or something instead.... Yeah like a Lexus, but get a scaled down version so it'll be easier on your pocket book, right Will, LOL <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> COL Nathan R. Jessup for President
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Trent Bond wrote 05/09/2005 10:29 AM Re: My dilemma [Re: Will Rambeau ] #73993 - 05/09/2005 10:29 AM
Trent Bond Webboard User Reg: 01-14-2005 Posts: 155 Loc: Beaumont, Texas Offline	I agree with Will. She and you will like the jewelry alot better (especially when you do not have to clean up the third dog run). You can sell it to your bride by telling her truthfully that he would be happier if he is in a situation which is a better fit, e.g. the only male dog. (heck who would not be happier being the only male) Good Luck, Trent
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Mike Bishop wrote 05/09/2005 10:31 AM Re: My dilemma [Re: Tracy Brown ] #73994 - 05/09/2005 10:31 AM
Mike Bishop Webboard User Reg: 01-17-2005 Posts: 139 Loc: CO Offline	Tracy - we already had the pit neutered, shots, etc... -- although this probably doesn't really change anything. I did read Ed's article on multiple dog households and it did help. In all your ways acknowledge Him, And He shall direct your paths. Proverbs 3:6
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Kate Kolbeck wrote 05/09/2005 10:38 AM Re: My dilemma [Re: Will Rambeau ] #73995 - 05/09/2005 10:38 AM
Kate Kolbeck Webboard User Reg: 04-21-2004 Posts: 141 Loc: Offline	I have 3 males and 1 female in my house. The female is definitely THE BOSS over all those boys...and she's the youngest (6mths) and newest of the group. You go girl! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> Proud Mom of Abbey (aka "Moo") - my true soul mate...I miss you terribly and will see you at the bridge...
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Mike Bishop wrote 05/09/2005 10:51 AM Re: My dilemma [Re: Will Rambeau ] #73996 - 05/09/2005 10:51 AM
Mike Bishop Webboard User Reg: 01-17-2005 Posts: 139 Loc: CO Offline	Quote: Buy your wife some nice jewelry or something instead.... Oh if only it were that easy... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> Will, Trent, and Chris - thanks for the advice. Without going into great detail she REALLY loves this dog and I have already objected to having him at our house (who wears the pants anyway?? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />. I have explained to her the potential for dominance issues, fighting, etc... but I don't think she really understands how serious dog fights are nor how difficult they are to break up once they get started. I do not want to take this risk but, unless I start taking donations for that Lexus <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />, the dog is there and I need to come up with at least some sort of temporary solution (I guess for now it will be to keep them separated). In all your ways acknowledge Him, And He shall direct your paths. Proverbs 3:6
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Tracy Brown wrote 05/09/2005 10:56 AM Re: My dilemma [Re: Kate Kolbeck ] #73997 - 05/09/2005 10:56 AM
Tracy Brown Webboard User Reg: 12-20-2004 Posts: 381 Loc: Mississippi Offline	Just wait a couple months when she comes in heat and see how those three males act.
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