I have a very nice Dam from one of Ed litters and would like to become a breader of GSD's. I do have a few ????
Can you foster a male out or should it just be females.
If I breed her this next heat cycle should i keep one or two of her pup for foster homes?
I would like to incorperate czech border patrol lines, does this sound like good planing?
I found two places in DOGWORLD that say they have czech lines, does anyone know of them and how good are there lines.
It is my goal to be a breader of top police dog. I do not want to be a "back yard breader". It is the type of dog that i want to make better, not just have puppys to sell. I care more about the dogs and my own bloodlines then i care about the $$$$. Any HELP is welcome.

Please tell me what you think about these two kennels and would it make a good start to my own bloodlines.
STAHLHART KENNELS@ http://www.stahlhart.com
Alpine safty k-9 @ http://www.alpinek9.com

David, I removed the duplicate post... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" />

I think a female from Ed's lines is a good place to start. We've had a lot of discussion about the how's, but more importantly the *why's* of breeding that you can look up with the "search" function ( which I know is a little quirky right now, hence I'm leaving open this thread for discussion ).
It's up to you to determine the philosophy of what you are trying to accomplish by breeding ( I like your goal of breeding top police lines...good luck in your pursuit )

Maybe it's just me, but I'd take *any* advertising from Dog World with a little bit of caution. There are *a lot* of fly-by-night kennels in that publication. Some good ones, but they're the rarity.....

And we've discussed Alpine Safety K-9 in various threads previously ( ....seach function..... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> )

I do not have GSDs so I cannot help you on the kennels you mentioned but here is my advice on breeding. Learn all you can before you jump in and breed a litter. Be able to answer the questions you asked. How old is your bitch? What are the things you like about her? What are her health clearances? What things do you wish in a sire to improve upon the bitch? You say you want to breed top police dogs - what knowledge do you have in the necessary traits for police dogs? I ask these questions because these are things that I would ask myself or other breeders if I was looking to purchase a pup from them.

Get involved in the area of dog sport/training that you are interested in. Gain knowledge from people you respect and use that knowledge to build a foundation for your kennel. There are so many factors involved in breeding that I personnally feel that there is only so much that can be garnered from books or the internet. Go out there and meet people. Getting out there not only helps one become knowledgable but also allows networking, something that will be valuable down the road. Again, this is just my personal opinion and we know how valuable unknown opinions off the web are <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

I also don't know anything about breeding dogs, but I know a guy that breeds egyptian horses and the research he has put into his program is pretty impressive. He's studied all the really good horses from the past 100 years and carefully chooses which animals he breeds for desired traits. Most of the items he's told me about involve visual characteristics, so that probably makes it easier to go back and look at the animals and their pedigrees, but I would think a similar vigor for research into the traits you're looking for would be valuable to anyone that is serious about breeding.

If you don't already have experience, you may want to try to find a kennel where you can work for awhile to learn the answers to your questions and possibly find a mentor that is willing to help you out.

I agree with the networking suggestion. It pays to know people. This board is a good place to start. Good luck starting your own blood line, you will have your work cut out for you. Proper dedication, knowledge and commitment will take you far.

i have talked to other breeders locally and have found that they lack integrity,knowledge.
i talked to one breeder of GSD and he is breeding to breed his dogs.he had one solid black female who had high drives and was aninimal aggressive.he had the dog put down at age 5.he said he didn't like the way the dog would go into drive,( not his words)his words were "i would take her for a walk and she would key up on any squaral,cat,and her hair would stand on end when she saw other dogs small or large." he had this dog from a pup at 10 weeks.he now has two females and one male GSD of questionable lines. i say this because i don't like the looks of the dogs i see.they seem to be show lines with small hips,close to the ground,that severe angularity, big head,weak nerves,and the inability to work.i found that this person had nothing to offer me in the way of knowledge to better the breed of German Shepherd Dogs.
i talked to a woman breeder 60 miles away from me and spook with her about schutzland training and police service dogs and i got the impression that she had little to no knowledge about the GSD.i have since seen 3 of her pups and saw the same thing.week nerves,and low drives.
it seems to me that my best chance in learning all i can is to but in a standing order at the local bookstore( any help here on book titles),talk to folks here,and be willing to make mistakes.i am not in a hurry to breed my dog untill i can find a sutible male.my dogs only 2 yrs old and i figure that i have 2 to 3 yrs to find a male.
Traits i want to breed are high drives,sound nerves,dark coats,dark eyes,steady temperment,good hips,and solid bone structure(but not to big, less then 100 pounds)

My advice is do alot of research about the dog and the kennel you are looking at buying it from. Just dont take their word on everything. And just remember just because a dog has a few great working dogs in their lines doesnt mean the puppy is a sure thing. It is best if you can go to the kennel and temperament test the puppies yourself. That way you will have first hand insight at what you are looking at. Second you need to determine what type of dog you are wanting, high drive, very high drive, etc.

Also I would look at Van den heuvel K9. this is a nice kennel with the type of lines you are looking for. I have bought a couple from there and have been completely satisfied.

http://vonhunterkennels.com

Dana, This is an outstanding post! I wish more people would approach breeding like this!

I agree with Beth, Dana... sounds like you will be an exceptional breeder when you do finally put that first litter on the ground. All the best!!