Hi Guys,

Just a brief question. I got AKC registration paper from my breeder and he has two boxed checked:
1. DO NOT BREED
2. NOT ANY COMPITITION/ CHAMPIONSHIP.

I asked him and he said that he does not want to be held reponsible for any bad things in future.

I saw the dame and sire. Hips good and great temprament. He is a known breeder. So why he would not want me to breed my dog? NOr that I will but like everyone else I don't want anyone to take any options away from me Or does he meant for me not to be a BREEDER (which I am not going to be)
ON A DIFF SUBJECT-( I don't want to post another thread for something small like this)-
I am having hard time getting a correct collar for my pup.
1. Should the collar fit at the base of the neck or closer t his ears?
2. Any time my pup does not want to do anything and I try to correct hm, he takes the snap hook on the leash in his mouth. I saw ED with Nick(his gsd puppy) and he was able to pull the leash without getting it in the pup's mouth. Do i have the wrong collar/ leash????

THanks,

Rashmi

In the breeder's mind, he most likely sold you a pet quality dog ( hopefully you paid pet dog prices and not too much or else you got a bad deal here ).
Any puppies produced from your dog can not be registered, so you might as well go ahead and spay or neuter it when the time comes.

In my opinion, a buyer would deserve a better answer to the question of why a sold dog wasn't to be bred - his response that he doesn't want to be held "responsible for any bad things in the future" is BS . <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" />

I don't know about your particular breeder but most breeders charge more if you want to have a "full" akc registration opposed to a "limited" registration. Limited means your pups can't be AKC registered if you bred your dog, full reg means you can breed all your want and your pups will also be akc dogs. Many breeders will force you to neuter/spay if you get a limited registration from them. My own breeder made me a deal - if I ever decide to breed Cujo, give him an extra $300, he'll upgrade my registration to full with akc and I can have my Cujo puppies. This leaves options open, costs less for the dog, and doesn't commit me to neutering. Perhaps your breeder has a similar process.

As for collar sizing, what type of collar are you talking about? A regular leather collar? I size mine to be JUST tight enough to not slip over the dogs head, I don't make them sit tight around any part of his neck. When Cujo was 4 months I used a very thin leather collar, then gradually got thicker as he outgrew them.

How old is your pup? Pups need an adjustment period for them to get used to their collars and leashes, its all part of training. Some people say "let the dog mouth on the leash so he familiarizes himself with it", others say "correct the dog for chewing on the leahs".... I remember when he was about 5 months old I was talking to a neighbor with Cujo laying down on their driveway, 2 minutes later he's walking in front of me without a leash, chewed right thru it in no time flat.

Umm...Mike, I actually know *very* few professional working dog kennels that do what you described, and I've been doing this a long time.
My experience has always been that full registration is part of the purchase price. The only way I would sell a puppy on a limited registration is if it had a disqualifying flaw and should not be bred - and I'd make d*mn sure that any prospective buyer knew that up front.

Hi,

He suggested not to neuter my pup but did not talk about changing the registration on AKC. If I don't neuter my dog in his first two years and if accident happen what then?

Now I am worried and am not sure why my breeder does not want me to breed and/ or have my dog compete. Is there any way to find out. Perhaps I could give him the AKC registration choice. I paid $1,500.00 for my pup. He is 3.75 months old.

Rashmi

I FORGOT TO ASK, Do I have to register my dog with AKC?

OK perhaps I was being a lil overzealous with my "most breeders" statement, I guess I meant "some breeders" or "most of the breeders that I spoke to trying to find a puppy" <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> I just ran down the stairs n put my foot down sideways so while suffering the pain of stupidity, I may not be thinking straight. But the options and methods I described are practiced, at least among the breeders I had looked at.

You don't have to reg with AKC, but if you have the option to, why wouldn't you want to register your dog?

As for neutering - I don't know how typical accidents happen, I can't picture a scenario other than maybe my dog chasing after a neighbors unspayed female dog? My dog is never out of my sight when I leave the house with him, accidents never even crossed my mind when I made the decision not to neuter him, he's never tried to hump anything yet n he's coming up to 13 months old. He only just started lifting his leg to mark his spot about 6 weeks ago, and he only does it when marking.

$1500 for a limited AKC Registration?!?!?! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" />

You were *ROBBED*!!

Rashmi, your breeder screwed you, I would go to every website forum I could find and post about this dip s^^^. I don't think you could do that here, but I'd go somewhere else and tell it from the mountain, ruin his buisness.

MIKE S:
Dude, I agree with Will, all that limited registration stuff is Crap. The reputable breeders I know (and I recently delt with alot while looking for my newest pup) don't do that unless they feel the dog is as a working dog, "WORTHLESS". Take it for what you want but anything else they tell you is absolute BS, and all they are trying to do is build value in what they feel to be a worthless pup. There are far to many excellent breeders with over the top dogs out there than to mess with some BS guy telling me what I can and can't do with a pup that I am paying full price for, and that is suppose to be working quality. I don't know of one kennel that is so valuable to the dog world that would warrant doing business with them.

forgot to mention, Mike, I am not at all saying your dog is worthless, I have had a few pups, that I felt was a good dog, and the breeder felt would be nothing, I just still refused to buy into the limited registration. Most of the time a breeder knows his pups, but they are human and can make bad judgments to, I said that to say your pup, may not at all be worthless in the working world (don't know anything about your dog), but it's obvious the breeder thinks so, but that doesn't always put it in stone.
PS: The dog I'm working now, turned out to be one of the best in the litter if not the best, and the breeder allowed me to have first pick and he was suggesting highly against him, Well I won <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> Now he is wants to breed to him next spring. Now imagine if I had limited registration <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" />