 Socializing my dog with other dogs.
#79304 - 07/19/2005 03:10 PM |
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My girlfriend and I have come to a strong difference of opinion on this, and I was hoping someone could help shed some light on this subject for me.
We have a 3 month old sheherd mix pup. He gets along fabulously with every person he meets. When it comes to other dogs, I can't tell if he is getting along well, or not. With any dog he can, he will roll them on their back, bite the neck gently, and shake gently. Any dog larger than him, he will bite them wherever he can, and after a short period of time, will be growling while biting. After trying things her way, I am now of the impression that this is unacceptable behavior. She says he is just being "vocal" and it means nothing. She also says we shouldn't interfere, unless it becomes a problem.
My question is this, we want to be able to take him to family functions, where there will be other dogs present. Is there such a thing as acceptable behavior, or is this just another bad idea that should be avoided?
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Re: Socializing my dog with other dogs.
[Re: Michael Sears ]
#79305 - 07/19/2005 03:32 PM |
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QUOTE: With any dog he can, he will roll them on their back, bite the neck gently, and shake gently. Any dog larger than him, he will bite them wherever he can, and after a short period of time, will be growling while biting. END of QUOTE
Because you say that the issue is with larger dogs, "fear aggression" leaps to mind. The owners of the other dogs think it's OK that your dog is biting theirs? You mean real bites, right?
Wow..........I would really like to hear more about this being OK.........it wouldn't be OK with me. Anyone else want to weigh in, I hope?
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#79306 - 07/19/2005 03:47 PM |
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In response, I say biting, and I personally don't know the difference between a play bite and a serious bite. The other owners are all friends and family (the only thing I could get her to agree to is socializing him with dogs we ourselves know) Everytime he growls, or bites and shakes, I correct him for it with a firm scruff. It is my understanding that this is how a more dominant dog would correct the pup. Everyone else will sit there telling me that I'm worried for no reason, that they're just playing, etc. I'm just looking for solid advice on acceptable interactions with other dogs. I would prefer that he just learns to ignore them, but I work 8 to 10 hours a day, and my girlfriend is with him the entire time, so I don't get to control his interactions much.
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#79307 - 07/19/2005 04:01 PM |
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I don't let my dogs bite other dogs (breaking skin, etc.). Period. But I'd like to hear from others about this aggression. Am I wrong? Also, the minute I see that the situation is changing from play to real aggression, THAT MINUTE, I step in. Your manner of stepping in sounds OK, but I don't believe (just my opinion) that the manner matters; it's the fact that you are in charge and a sharp look coupled with a "no" command should be enough for a trained dog in a social situation. But I would like to hear the opinions of others.
I'd be afraid that if your girlfriend who is with your dog all the time doesn't have a meeting of the minds over this with you, it isn't going to matter much what you decide. I don't mean to sound overbearing......am I? It's just my opinion: You need to agree on the dog's behavior.
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#79308 - 07/19/2005 04:02 PM |
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#79309 - 07/19/2005 08:11 PM |
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Hi Mr. Sears, I don't let my dogs play with other dogs, I don't know if it's right or wrong but it's worked for me. Why put your pup in a situation that can turn bad in an instant? Anytime my dogs and i are around other animals they're on a leash, takes the guess work out of the situation, good luck AL
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#79310 - 07/19/2005 09:36 PM |
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Quite a few of the dogs I have worked with move around areas where there are other dogs, many times all sides are unleashed. It's quite important in my opinion for dogs to know what to do in the presence of other dogs, hence I do think there should be dog-dog socialization. Dogs can also be a very powerful distractor to other dogs that haven't been properly exposed and proofed.
I live in El Salvador...and there are mongrel dogs everywhere, and there's a social protocol...so to speak...that reduces their own chances of getting hurt. For me, it's important for dogs here to be at least minimally familiar with it.
The particulars regarding your dog's behavior...it's in my opinion to complex to answer with specifics...other than the obvious: Be careful.
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#79311 - 07/19/2005 11:35 PM |
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I thought I read and I personally believe, any dog that tries to roll another on it's back and stands over it with or without a bite is trying to dominate the other dog. Since it's also trying to bite the bigger dogs to, I see this behavior as a dominate dog behavior and I personally would try to control this. Might try looking under the dominate dog section.
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#79312 - 07/21/2005 09:07 AM |
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Hi guys,
My 5 months GSD pup is great with people but not with other dogs. He barks at them until he can't anymore and then tries to run after them. The hair on his back goes straight up. I think it is fear. It is my fault as I did not want him near any other animal unless he had his rabies shots. I am taking him to a puppy sociolizing class this weekend. Hopefully that will start the change. I am not sure what to expect from the class and how I should behave.
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Rashmi
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#79313 - 07/21/2005 10:29 AM |
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