How difficult is it to obtain a DEA license to possess narcotics for canine training purposes? Can a non-leo do this and if so, how does one go about it?
Drew,
Call your local DEA office and ask for someone in the "Diversionary" Unit. These are the agents that deal with the K-9 Researchers License on a regular basis.
Here in Iowa you also need a State Pharmaceutical License, prior to getting DEA license.
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As a civilian you can get a DEA. license but there are a bunch of hoops as well as a heafty$ that goes with it. You can go to the DEA website and do a search for researcher license and the information should be in there. You can also purchase psudo drugs without a license.
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A civilian can get a DEA License. YOu need to request a copy of DEA Form 225s (11-00). You will need to provide a training protocol that describes: What Schedules of drugs you will possess; What are they going to be used for; How are you going to store them; how are you going to inventory them; among other things. You will have to check with your individual state, as some states require you also possess thier state license. The fee for those that are not exempt is 70 dollars annually. A call to your local DEA can really help or call the Headquarters at 1 800 882 9539 or visit their website at http://www.deadiversion.usdoj.gov
Hope this helps.
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I meant to add in my post, stay away form psuedo, people don't need a license for them because they are not real. Why use them. It's like taking blanks to the firing range for qualification.
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David-I've been considering adding NArc training to my program. I've gotten the 225 form the DEA(actually very helpful people I didn't read this post before going it on my own) I've gotten the Pharmacy form from my state. My question is what products to I want to use in my initial training. The DEA of course lists about a million drugs. I half to choose each drug I want to use and submit the corresponding numbers with my application. I am a little confused as many of drugs have different chemical compounds but are called the same thing for example they list "China White" with about 5-6 different chemical structures. I wanted just the basics meth, marijuana, heroin and all forms of cocaine including crack. I thought that was a good basis to start with. Can you or anyone else help me out here. Derek
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I'd stick with the "big 4" Meth, Coke, , and . I don't see a need to go after the ... I have yet to see a properly trained dog fail to alert to nor a trained dog fail to alert on hash. Another thing to consider with regards to is the numerous types of cutting agents used and some training issues that may arise.
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I agree with Ptlm Grubb. Stick to the basic four. Train on as pure a substance as you can possibly get in your possession. If you stick with pure drugs, cuts and other diluents will not be a problem. The tests I've conducted, (not scientific mind you) but the tests I've run indicate a dog trained on marijuana will respond to hash and hash oil. Dog that work well on good meth seem to have no problems with X or the various different types of meth. My very unscientific tests did show that dogs trained on heroin however, would not respond to pure opium with out additional training.
DFrost
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