I have read several different definitions of " Play " drive . One equates it basically as the same as " Prey " drive; the other equates it to needing physcial contact with other members of the pack
1) What are other people take on this " Play " drive or that it even exists ?
2) If so how can we harness it in protection work ?
Jason Shipley Webboard User Reg: 05-13-2005
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Robert,
I've been toying with the notion that pack drive has an effect on the defense threshold. For example a higher pack drive dog will go into defense earlier when there is a direct threat to the handler, but will have a higher threshold when working on a back tie or for an unfamiliar handler. Any thoughts?
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For me, play drive is the early, "baby" form of prey drive. Prey drive before it fully develops.. before the pup has the confidence or ability to "kill" the prey.
Yes I think it has a place in protection work in the early days when building confidence, letting the pup win, and bringing out the real "prey drive" in there.
(note: I wrote this at 6am, before coffee.. it may make no sense at all, or even remotely be near to what I am actually trying to say) <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
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Jason wrote: "For example a higher pack drive dog will go into defense earlier when there is a direct threat to the handler, but will have a higher threshold when working on a back tie or for an unfamiliar handler. Any thoughts?"
It isn't really something that I've thought about. I would probably see that behavior as a lack of strength in the dog. He lacks confidence, or whatever, and won't attempt to defend himself without the support of the handler or till he really feels there is no other way out of the situation.
Jason Shipley Webboard User Reg: 05-13-2005
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Robert,
Let me first say that I don't have nearly enough time observing dogs to say with any certainty, but what I have observed was not a dog that was unwilling to work without the support of his handler. His performance was good without the presence of his primary handler, but when mom showed up and worked him I saw a marked difference in the amount of pressure that the decoy exerted before seeing signs of defense.
Brad,
What I have seen is that the terms tend to align by training philosopy... I've seen no difference between what my agility friends call "play drive", and what SchH trainers refer to as "prey drive", for example.
It's just a warmer fuzzier label for the same thing, IME.
Tracy
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