 Broken adult canine and it is BROWN
#88546 - 11/05/2005 11:54 AM |
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I just discovered it.
I am calling dog dentist on Monday. I assmue the tooth is dead. I had no awareness of it breaking.
Has anyone dealt with this?
I would like to know what to expect.
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Re: Broken adult canine and it is BROWN
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#88547 - 11/05/2005 12:48 PM |
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What, exactly, is brown? The outside of the tooth enamel? Or the inner, broken surface?
If it is the former, then you are probably right, it isn't looking good for saving the tooth.
If it is the inner part of the tooth, the broken surface, that is brown - the pulp appears brown - all might not be lost. I would call the vet asap and get them to assess the tooth.
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#88548 - 11/05/2005 04:17 PM |
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....Has anyone dealt with this? ....I would like to know what to expect.
When my granddog broke a molar, one of the determining factors (about how much work to pay for) was his age.
He was only three, so the tooth ended up with a root canal and a crown. This was very expensive because of the anesthesia on top of the dentist's and lab's fees. Had he been a senior, then it would have been more likely that the tooth would have been extracted (which is still oral surgery in a dog) and nothing else done.
But here's a good recap: http://www.dogbeachdentistry.com/brokentth.html
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#88549 - 11/05/2005 04:49 PM |
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Nancy, if it's one of the uper canines it can involve the sinus cavity. That can create serious infections that are hard to control. My old Border Terrier had to have one remove afte he broke it off at the gum line. To much chewing on the chainlink weakened it, and one to many battles with raccoons broke it off.
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#88550 - 11/05/2005 05:21 PM |
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...My old Border Terrier had to have one remove ...
My granddog with the crown happens to be a BT, too. A big raw bone caused a tiny crack and then a prey battle finished it off.
Good point about the sinus cavitiy involvement with the uppers.
From ThePetCenter.com is this reminder that my daughter's experience with her earth dogs really drove home for me. QUOTE: Very important is the daily care and inspection of our special friend’s mouth. The oral cavity is the gateway to either health or disease. Although our pets cannot talk, they have the same pain thresholds as we do. A broken tooth is painful. Don’t rely on the fact that the animal is eating as a sign that they are not experiencing pain. Quite often by the time they stop eating, the problem has become severe. END
I had learned about physical once-overs with my hands (and sense of smell) to find lumps, bumps, infections, and wounds early, but it took Milo's pricey crown to teach me about including the teeth.
Good luck, and good for you that you are getting it seen to right away!
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#88551 - 11/05/2005 07:40 PM |
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Yes it is like the whole tooth is brown. And it is the upper canine.
I don't care as much about saving the tooth as the sinus cavity, and the vomeronasal organ since she is a scenting dog and does not do bitework. She is one of 3 dogs on our team aggressively training for water search and was due to certify this winter (had I not lost time with a broken ankle)
I am mortified that I did not notice the break until the tooth was brown. There seems to be no infection at this point but I will not waste any time.........I guess Monday is soon enough though.....
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#88552 - 11/05/2005 08:00 PM |
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I guess the good news if there is any that, seeing the injuries obtained by wilderness SAR dogs -- and verifying that working dogs were not excluded -
-- I put Cyra on the VPI superior plan a year ago and the rate schedule has allowances of $502 for a root canal, $126 for testing, and $110 for anesthesia........I will just verify the dog dentist is linked to the plan.........(I guess I will still have to pay up front)
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#88553 - 11/05/2005 08:07 PM |
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Nancy, make sure you tell the insurance company that the injury happened during SAR training. It might be kinda like a broken arm. If it happens at home, your insurance, or pocket takes the hit. If it happens at work, it's workers comp or company insurance.
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#88554 - 11/06/2005 06:29 AM |
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Thanks Bob,
VPI is a pet owners policy and before I got it I made sure that a work-related injury would still be covered. (since those dogs are in a higher risk group*) They cover other injuries, so where it happens does not matter.
But I will look at our VFIS (voluneer firefighter) policy for the team. I don't think it covers dog injuries...
If I have a good experience with this (our first injury after the plan was bought - ) I am going to see if my team can join it as a group and perhaps get better rates.
VPI offered free lifetime health insurance to the 9-11 dogs aftewards....and they have employers group rates so maybe as a group we might qualify for a group rate.
*maybe they are NOT really in a higher risk group - working dogs suffer injuries but are kept in peak physical condition so maybe it balances out.
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#88555 - 11/08/2005 09:15 PM |
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The root canal is scheduled for next Monday. Of course I will be flying to DC for the week Monday afternoon and hubby will have to deal with it. (I hate leaving but work is work)
Even with the insurance it Ain't a gonna be cheap.
The vet dentist did not recommend putting on a crown since we don't do any bitework with her (but that tug and ball play would stil be ok)....said she did not want to remove any of the existing surface
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