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#203629 - 07/31/2008 03:31 PM |
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Usually, a trainer picks up knowledge by years of dog training, and they'll usually have titles in some venue ( multiple venues is best ) listed on their website.
This thread has been very good information for me personally as I've started searching for a trainer in my area.
I hope this isn't way off topic but if a trainer has a Schutzhund III title (master level), does that mean they worked their way up and obtained other titles while getting to a III?
Anna, I've never trained in Schutzhund but from my understanding. The TRAINER does not have the SCHIII title, the DOG has the title. And yes, there are other titles before it, BH, SCH1, SCH2, and SCHIII is the highest level.
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Re: How to evaluate a trainer
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Michael, please keep your attacks on people as public. If you cannot say it here, maybe you shouldn't be saying it.
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Re: How to evaluate a trainer
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alyssa both those dogs were sleeping and when my sister took the picture, sam woke up, sorry you are wrong, those dogs are still in the day care today and play all day long, not showing any aggression or dominace, im not sure you know what your looking at. both my dogs have fallen asleep next to each other at times Daegon has moved and his head is on top of maximus is that dominant behavior or a dog moving in his sleep????
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Re: How to evaluate a trainer
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Anna, I've never trained in Schutzhund but from my understanding. The TRAINER does not have the SCHIII title, the DOG has the title. And yes, there are other titles before it, BH, SCH1, SCH2, and SCHIII is the highest level.
Thank you. I put the site's info into my own words and I was incorrect - it actually reads: "xxxx and his personal dogs are successful competitors having obtained the Schutzhund III title (master level) and has been very successful in regional and national competitions."
If a more experienced member here can help me evaluate the trainer in my area, I'd appreciate any help. Please PM me and I will link you to the site.
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[Re: Anna McEntire ]
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I think they're using that "masters level" to clue in pet people that it's a high title....no one in SchH would use that title, we'd laugh ourselves silly if someone used it. 
Competitions at that high level are a good sign that a trainer has mastered the fundaments of real dog training, a good advertisement for sure.
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Re: How to evaluate a trainer
[Re: Anna McEntire ]
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Anna McEntire asked
if a trainer has a Schutzhund III title (master level), does that mean they worked their way up and obtained other titles while getting to a III?
Actually, the dog gets the title. If the dog is HOT (Handler/Owner Trained) the SchH3 title indicates a certain level of training accomplishment. For a HOT dog, the owner has to have put every title on the dog starting with the BH.
Some people purchase already trained dogs for trialing. It takes a certain level of training skill to maintain that dog's performance.
If someone was holding themselves out as a 'Master Certified Protection Trainer' I would expect to see at least a HOT SchH3 dog and the ability to work dogs at a Regional Level or better (USA helper classification or the equivilant in other protection venues).
List of USA SchH3 Club Dogs
http://germanshepherddog.com/members/Sch3ClubList.htm
List of USA Classified Helpers
http://germanshepherddog.com/members/HelperList.htm
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Usually, a trainer picks up knowledge by years of dog training, and they'll usually have titles in some venue ( multiple venues is best ) listed on their website.
This thread has been very good information for me personally as I've started searching for a trainer in my area.
I hope this isn't way off topic but if a trainer has a Schutzhund III title (master level), does that mean they worked their way up and obtained other titles while getting to a III?
Anna,
I would recommend starting another thread about your question, answers might get a little lost in this thread. 
OOOPS, see I did not even see Will and Charlies answer to you until now...
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[Re: Charlie Snyder ]
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yes, the master trainer was my fault my sister had the brochures made up and the women put that in, go figure ,it sounds tacky but was too late, had 1000 made up it what is says on the certificate, she used that, i tell people im a dog trainer.
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Re: How to evaluate a trainer
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This thread is entertaining in a warped sort of way, but I think what it needs is some WOE, although Will is doing a pretty good job keeping the insanity in check.
Where's that Chaos woman who said we didn't have any fun?
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