Re: Yet another embarrassing problem
[Re: Maria Martynchik ]
#327140 - 04/13/2011 07:55 PM |
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Re: Yet another embarrassing problem
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#327142 - 04/13/2011 08:01 PM |
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I see (read) about a proven nibbler.
If this owner had any, ANY interest at all in the dog, she would have found out by now, one way or the other, that all the behavior she's described thus far is all very rather oh hum mundane normal for a northern breed.
Hers seems to me to be more of a case mememememe's. And a classical case of 'the vapors'.
I agree the dog should be rehomed, and I fore told this out come when this first hit the board.
I wish the dog luck in it's next life.
For the op.
Choose your next dog very carefully. For all your self proclaimed experience with dogs, you've shown very little knowledge or understanding in the handling of this poor animal.
If you happen across a dog of any breed that has any character at all.....you'll find yourself exactly in the same boat. So choose very carefully.
I'll sign off with a large shout out of wishing GOOD LUCK to the Akita (the known nibbler) as he'll need it.
To the op, get a gold fish.
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Re: Stuck in a rut with a dominant rescue Akita
[Re: Barbara Schuler ]
#327144 - 04/13/2011 08:18 PM |
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OK. Guys. We have received the information and were considering it. I have written a letter to that trainer today. It is not that easy when you are ill, living on bare minimum ( I do not qualify for basic social security because I am an immigrant) and when your husband is working min.wage job. We ARE trying. We could not run to the trainer asap because we are poor. And yes, I agree. we have bitten off much more than we can chew. But it was not our intention. I doubt there are that many people who would give her as much as we did considering her aggression-most would not even bother. I know some trainers have free eval. consultations (and this guy I think does too) but it all comes down to a rehabilitation program that right now WILL starve us if we start it. It is something we simply could not predict at all. It is hard to explain to others, but we are THAT tight. In fact, I am the only one who wants to get her evaluated and properly placed-my husband had enough of her attempts to injure us and insists on taking her to the pound tomorrow morning. She is lucky she was bitchy with me-I tried to do everything by the book when my husband would have not taken it that politely, the dog would not be alive period.
Nope, I know well enough that there is NO bond with her. I find her cute, but that's about it. I did feel attached to her for awhile. I simply isolated her (muzzled walks and food, water, crate) after what she did (and repeated this morning by the way). I want to be safe, and I doubt that anyone's advice would be to play a game of fetch with her right now:-))))
We'll see what this gentleman (the trainer) has to say.
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Re: Yet another embarrassing problem
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#327146 - 04/13/2011 08:24 PM |
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Uhh...Excuse me...Mr. Randy Allen..?? Wow. OK.
Sorry, It appears I angered somebody?
I don't have ANY interest in this dog? I have a "case of the vapors"?
It's pretty offensive.
What did I say to offend you?
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Re: Stuck in a rut with a dominant rescue Akita
[Re: Maria Martynchik ]
#327147 - 04/13/2011 08:26 PM |
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You might be able to get an evaluation for free. Who knows, maybe she will even end up with a trainer who falls in love with her.
My ex ended up taking TWO rottwielers off of animal control death row, they had been running the streets together in a bad neigborhood for months and had over twenty bites between them. He had them for a year in his home and turned them into working dogs for a park ranger.
Magic can happen. Keep faith. Write everybody who could possibly help.
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Re: Stuck in a rut with a dominant rescue Akita
[Re: Lauren Jeffery ]
#327226 - 04/14/2011 01:31 PM |
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We have talked to the trainer. No, his evals are NOT free. Yes, his website says free but he advertises evaluations for training and NOT aggression issues. For him to come out to SF and see her, plus every other session costs 125 dollars. We haven't got such money. Other behavior specialist also charges for them. Evaluation will not be the only thing she needs, she will need long behaviour modification that might or might not work. $125 per session, she might need a lot of them. I was told on Akita board (I have been talking to the guys there for a long time) that she is not dominant, she is unstable. That;s why she is one day submissive and another day dominant. My husband also noticed that she is never relaxed completely, always "ready to go". Even when she is very tired.
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Re: Stuck in a rut with a dominant rescue Akita
[Re: Maria Martynchik ]
#327231 - 04/14/2011 01:46 PM |
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That seems completely reasonable to me for a trainer to drive to your home and work with you and your animal all day. That is not his ongoing or follow up rate.
But no matter -I think it is becoming increasingly clear that you do not have the will, the ability, or the resources to work effectively with the animal. And that's really OK Maria -maybe the effort now should be concentrated on a happy, appropriate re-homing..
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Re: Stuck in a rut with a dominant rescue Akita
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#327244 - 04/14/2011 02:31 PM |
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So are you planning on keeping her now?
I'm confused.
Did you contact anyone from a rescue or the SPCA?
The whole thing about her being "dominant" one day and "submissive" the next is probably not an indicator of her being unstable. For crying out loud she is barely a year old!
To figure out what is going on with her you need to get someone to look at her for you. People on the internet can't see the dog, and to truly assess the kind of behaivor patterns you are seeing will take someone with experience and knowledge to give the dog a temperament test.
They really don't have a lot of ways to tell us what they are thinking about, one action or signal can mean a whole bunch of very different things depending on what is going on with the whole picture.
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Re: Stuck in a rut with a dominant rescue Akita
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#327245 - 04/14/2011 02:33 PM |
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I don't mean we don't have money for evaluation. It is his rate for every session with a dog like that. 125 for evaluation, 125 for every working session. That was what he told me. I will try and contact others. Yes, we are extremely poor. We have to choose between our rent and her behaviour evaluations. We have money for vets, food, training classes. This is extra that we did not plan.
We are working on re-homing. IN the meantime we are walking her calmly in the muzzle.
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Re: Stuck in a rut with a dominant rescue Akita
[Re: Maria Martynchik ]
#327247 - 04/14/2011 02:37 PM |
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