Re: Stuck in a rut with a dominant rescue Akita
[Re: Maria Martynchik ]
#327423 - 04/15/2011 01:04 PM |
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There have not been any advice besides one person recommending trainers (thanks)
Are you reading the same thread I am?
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Re: Stuck in a rut with a dominant rescue Akita
[Re: Joyce Salazar ]
#327424 - 04/15/2011 01:05 PM |
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Look, there is no shame in not knowing how to handle this dog.
Many people would be in the same situation. But you have to start first with admitting you are in over your head.
You did try to work with her, but now is the time to find the people with the skills and knowledge to help her.
Please, for the sake of the dog, listen to the many experienced members here and get the dog evaluated.
"And I never said we can't give her a consultation. We WILL give her a consultation."
Good. This is good. And it will help the rescues you contact.
Without it, the term "dominant aggressive" is sure to make its way from you to the rescue, and this (IMO only) is not a dominant dog ---- not from a single event or behavior you have described over 13 pages. JMO. Of course I can be wrong, but not one word in this thread has made me think "dominant aggression."
Hence -- the experienced eval.
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Re: Stuck in a rut with a dominant rescue Akita
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#327425 - 04/15/2011 01:11 PM |
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Aaron, my dog is NOT doing exactly what a dog in the video is doing. I said before, the scream is similar. Yume is NOT scared of anything, she never had the tail between her legs.yes, she IS coming up the leash and biting. She tried to throw tantrums where she would thrash on the leash and roll around on the ground and get aggressive when you touch her. There was NO fear in her, and NOONE was correcting her at that moment-she was displeased that I didn't let her jump up on my roommate. Didn't I say all this before?. She did these things for different reasons, but usually to prevent me form going where we are supposed to go/or doing what she SURELY is NOT supposed to do. Who told anyone anything about us giving her unfair corrections? Who said anything about us having "horrible, dangerous days" with her??? Our days were normal, this problem did not occupy our WHOLE days.
Terrified?Of what? The dog that refuses to walk or listen, throws a screaming, (now growling) tantrum and BITES just because I lead her away from the other dog/human/tasty smell?????
I agree that alpha rolling was bad idea, it is dangerous. But what trust are we talking about? She was rolled for attacking us, for God's sake. I couldn't get up on my own bed. Not much trust there in the first place.
We did not move her tail, it was someone else's dog!
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Re: Stuck in a rut with a dominant rescue Akita
[Re: Maria Martynchik ]
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Re: Stuck in a rut with a dominant rescue Akita
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Guarding food. (Solved, for owners)
Guarding MY objects. (Solved)
Guarding bed, hers and MINE where she was not invited. (Solved)
Putting paws on my feet, head on my arm/hand/etc every time I approach. (Unresolved)
Demanding petting, pushing HARD into me when she needs it.
Snapping when I touch her flank. (Resolved)
Aggressive/snapping/nipping while being groomed (Solved)
Aggressive while being corrected. Fairly, for KNOWN things (Unresolved)
She hates when you touch her head and mouthes instead (Solved with us, the same with strangers)
Pushy, demanding food, growling if made sit for it (Solved)
LOVING to lie on high places (DINNER TABLE), grumpy when chased off. (SOLVED)
Extreme dog aggression (Solved)
Possessiveness.(Working)
Dragging people on the leash (Solved, almost)
IGNORING known commands (especially LEAVE IT or DOWN).
Ummm. What is NOT dominant.
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Re: Stuck in a rut with a dominant rescue Akita
[Re: Maria Martynchik ]
#327432 - 04/15/2011 01:23 PM |
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Maria,
Why are you rehashing all of this? I thought you had come to the realization that you were rehoming this dog.
You don't have to keep defending yourself. I know this is all very frustrating, but let's not go back and forth trying to prove or disapprove of what has transpired.
Look, all we have to go on is what has been posted here on this entire thread.
What are your plans for Yuma?
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Re: Stuck in a rut with a dominant rescue Akita
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#327433 - 04/15/2011 01:25 PM |
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I meant she will be put down if we give her up! I didn't say I will do it, but what happens to animals that cannot be adopted? They put them down. No, I never said she deserves to be killed. that's insanity, she is a dog for a strong person, but where am I gong to get this person:-). MMmmm, "Adolescent Akita that like to bite.." how many people will call us....SPCA will not take her. Only ACC. And they KILL.
I talked to a lady who works with TikiHut Akita rescue. They do not want her. This is the only Akita rescue here in Bay Area 9branches of into Golden Gate Akitas).
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Re: Stuck in a rut with a dominant rescue Akita
[Re: Maria Martynchik ]
#327434 - 04/15/2011 01:28 PM |
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Are you afraid of this dog??
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Re: Stuck in a rut with a dominant rescue Akita
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#327435 - 04/15/2011 01:29 PM |
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Guarding food. (Solved, for owners)
Guarding MY objects. (Solved)
Guarding bed, hers and MINE where she was not invited. (Solved)
Putting paws on my feet, head on my arm/hand/etc every time I approach. (Unresolved)
Demanding petting, pushing HARD into me when she needs it.
Snapping when I touch her flank. (Resolved)
Aggressive/snapping/nipping while being groomed (Solved)
Aggressive while being corrected. Fairly, for KNOWN things (Unresolved)
She hates when you touch her head and mouthes instead (Solved with us, the same with strangers)
Pushy, demanding food, growling if made sit for it (Solved)
LOVING to lie on high places (DINNER TABLE), grumpy when chased off. (SOLVED)
Extreme dog aggression (Solved)
Possessiveness.(Working)
Dragging people on the leash (Solved, almost)
IGNORING known commands (especially LEAVE IT or DOWN).
Ummm. What is NOT dominant.
Um... Honestly?
Most of what you describe is not dominant at all, just a dog with bad manners that does not like to be pet/touched in some places.
Heck I had a dog the HATED to be pet on the head and would seriously snap, but she was the most submissive dog I have ever owned...
If you are looking to prove a case of dominance, all of those things could be "viewed" as dominant behaviors by the average pet owner, but none really are at all...
A puppy that age is not going to really be showing any seriously dominant behaviors yet except in some rare cases. They usually show confidence at this age if they are destined to be a dominant type dog, but not the majority of the stuff you describe.
She sounds conflicted and unsure of where her place is and is being a naughty, no manner adolescent.
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Re: Stuck in a rut with a dominant rescue Akita
[Re: Maria Martynchik ]
#327436 - 04/15/2011 01:31 PM |
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Ok, so I know you live in California and I believe there are lots of no kill shelters, surely we should be able to find a place where she will not be killed should you give her over to them.
Also, do the Akita rescues work together, maybe one of those could help out in transferring the dog to another facility.
Also, I know this may be really outside the box, but have you tried contacting Cesar Milan's place?
I would think that he might be interested in helping Yuma.
Just thinking of options.
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