Re: How to know when a dog knows a command
[Re: Natalie Rynda ]
#384057 - 10/10/2013 03:12 PM |
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I think there's a misunderstanding about what happens when we see dogs on the street. I never stop for any dogs, I don't even walk by dogs, I will make a uturn or cross the street as soon as I see another dog.
However, sometimes I don't do it fast enough and he will bark. That's all I'm saying. I'm still fast walking the other way, they never get into each other's space.
I don't notice a dog in time to avoid barking.
It's impossible to always see the dog from far enough that he doesn't bark. Wide corners or not (I always peak around the corner before I turn), sometimes dogs will appear close enough for him to bark
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Re: How to know when a dog knows a command
[Re: steve strom ]
#384058 - 10/10/2013 03:15 PM |
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Have you ever heard the saying, trying to fit a square peg into a round hole Natalie? Look at your expression at the end of the video. That disappointment isn't going to change if you don't work with what Boomer likes and responds to.
There's different ways to do most everything, even playing tug. Boomer doesn't have the prey drive or the desire for those toys you're wanting him to. You're going to have to look to using them differently.
Everything is all over the map between two threads. What exactly is your goal with him? Obedience trials of some sort? Happy pet? Where do you want to go with this stuff?
Happy pet
But I want to add, he likes the toys. He can't contain himself when I first take them out.
Again, what I recorded was an hour after being outside, after playing with all toys 3 times at least.
That's why I recorded that part as opposed to recording the part when we first start.
I was looking for ideas to get him excited EVERY time no matter how many times we played already
I'm seeing that might not be possible.
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Re: How to know when a dog knows a command
[Re: Natalie Rynda ]
#384059 - 10/10/2013 03:15 PM |
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My dog is highly reactive and cannot play with other dogs. I give her breaks to sniff and run, but not around other dogs. Her off-leash obedience is good enough that we can be on the club field with other dogs there, but she's not allowed to approach them. Her on-leash OB is good enough that we can work side-by-side with familiar dogs, but I have to be on my tippy toes.
I think these would be more reasonable long term goals for you, at least for now.
Can't play with other dogs why? Because of the way she is or because you don't want her to?
I'm on edge about letting him play with some dogs for a few mins. I started staying away from everyone about a month ago and every day someone comes up and tells me how wrong I am for not letting them play together anymore, and that he needs dog interaction and that his problems will become worse, etc.
I can't help but to start doubting myself, I mean all these people are saying this even though their dogs are untrained.
He's actually good with other dogs, not aggressive, gentle, he plays with a chihuahua. I'm soo paranoid about it but her owner insists, he likes the sight of them too. I do too but I'm very nervous.
Anyway, should I let him?
And which goals are uu talking about?
I don't let her because it will end up in a fight.
The goals I mentioned are having good enough obedience to focus in the presence of other dogs and, at least on-leash, be able to train with other dogs. I didn't mean specifically what I do, but that the goal should be to have enough obedience to act appropriately in any situation, even if there is atrigger nearby.
The "more realistic" part meant more realistic than expecting your dog to be a perfectly trained robot, or to focus for 5 hours.
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Re: How to know when a dog knows a command
[Re: Duane Hull ]
#384060 - 10/10/2013 03:17 PM |
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My dog is highly reactive and cannot play with other dogs. I give her breaks to sniff and run, but not around other dogs. Her off-leash obedience is good enough that we can be on the club field with other dogs there, but she's not allowed to approach them. Her on-leash OB is good enough that we can work side-by-side with familiar dogs, but I have to be on my tippy toes.
I think these would be more reasonable long term goals for you, at least for now.
Can't play with other dogs why? Because of the way she is or because you don't want her to?
I'm on edge about letting him play with some dogs for a few mins. I started staying away from everyone about a month ago and every day someone comes up and tells me how wrong I am for not letting them play together anymore, and that he needs dog interaction and that his problems will become worse, etc.
I can't help but to start doubting myself, I mean all these people are saying this even though their dogs are untrained.
He's actually good with other dogs, not aggressive, gentle, he plays with a chihuahua. I'm soo paranoid about it but her owner insists, he likes the sight of them too. I do too but I'm very nervous.
Anyway, should I let him?
And which goals are uu talking about?
I don't let her because it will end up in a fight.
The goals I mentioned are having good enough obedience to focus in the presence of other dogs and, at least on-leash, be able to train with other dogs. I didn't mean specifically what I do, but that the goal should be to have enough obedience to act appropriately in any situation, even if there is atrigger nearby.
The "more realistic" part meant more realistic than expecting your dog to be a perfectly trained robot, or to focus for 5 hours.
Got it. That was the impression I got from reading some forums and watching ME's videos. I know he's a pro lol, I like to challenge myself though.
I understand I was wrong. Will work on small things.
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Re: How to know when a dog knows a command
[Re: Natalie Rynda ]
#384061 - 10/10/2013 03:27 PM |
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"I'm on edge about letting him play with some dogs for a few mins. I started staying away from everyone about a month ago and every day someone comes up and tells me how wrong I am for not letting them play together anymore, and that he needs dog interaction and that his problems will become worse, etc.
I can't help but to start doubting myself, I mean all these people are saying this even though their dogs are untrained. "
YOUR dog. YOUR rules. If you check out any of the dog park threads here you'll see that virtually no experienced owner/trainers are letting their dogs have play-dates (or even a meet and greet) with strange dogs.
"All these people" .... who have untrained dogs. Who cares what they want you and your dog to do? Right?
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Re: How to know when a dog knows a command
[Re: Natalie Rynda ]
#384062 - 10/10/2013 03:28 PM |
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Re: How to know when a dog knows a command
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#384063 - 10/10/2013 03:33 PM |
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" Will work on small things."
YES!
Look at the results from just taking a couple of the simple suggestions given and having a short, upbeat training session.
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Re: How to know when a dog knows a command
[Re: Natalie Rynda ]
#384064 - 10/10/2013 03:34 PM |
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Duane, I started to reply but you deleted.
I am learning as I go but I have to understand how a technique works and believe in it otherwise I lose hope and stop doing it or I don't do it right because I'm thinking it works because .... and that affects the way I understand it meanwhile it really works because ... and it should've been done with a different accent.
For example, him pulling. I'm trying to do the leash pressure but I can't understand how teaching him to give to leash pressure will stop him from pulling when he sees another dog or when he wants to sniff something along the way.
So since I don't understand I'm not good with doing the training. I feel like I'm wasting my time and it won't solve my problem.
I'm not here asking questions because I want to waste your time. It's because I see how lack of understanding on my part has affected what I'm trying to do.
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Re: How to know when a dog knows a command
[Re: Natalie Rynda ]
#384065 - 10/10/2013 03:34 PM |
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"I like to challenge myself though. "
One step at a time. Foundation is a HUGE training word, for a good reason.
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Re: How to know when a dog knows a command
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#384066 - 10/10/2013 03:36 PM |
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"I'm on edge about letting him play with some dogs for a few mins. I started staying away from everyone about a month ago and every day someone comes up and tells me how wrong I am for not letting them play together anymore, and that he needs dog interaction and that his problems will become worse, etc.
I can't help but to start doubting myself, I mean all these people are saying this even though their dogs are untrained. "
YOUR dog. YOUR rules. If you check out any of the dog park threads here you'll see that virtually no experienced owner/trainers are letting their dogs have play-dates (or even a meet and greet) with strange dogs.
"All these people" .... who have untrained dogs. Who cares what they want you and your dog to do? Right?
For sure and I have no problem telling them to go pound sand as long as I know I'm definitely right (like I did with humping).
What I'm saying is that having different people tell me every day over and over that I'm wrong makes me start doubting myself.
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