Anybody can make a picture like that. Take a dozen or so pups, a couple of tubes of super glue....!!PRESTO!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
Maren Bell Webboard User Reg: 03-12-2006
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I looked at their "trained adults" for sale. That one dog that is listed as normal hips. Normal hips my foot! Those are some nasty angled hind legs. Yuck! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" />
"You don't have to train a dog as much as you have to train a human."--Cesar Millan
I'm sure they can keep putting them back in that position for 30 minutes; what's so hard about that <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />? Halties?!? Sheesh! How stupid do they think people are?
I have seen showline pups at 9 weeks that look like that, so that part may be true. In fact, my uncle's dog looked just like that at 9 weeks. So, perhaps they're telling the truth on one tiny detail. The rest of it is crap.
Hmm, on another level, you COULD teach a sort of 'stay' by teaching the puppy a release word/marker motivationally. I don't know if it's possible at 9 weeks, maybe 11, but yeah. Some of those puppies look somewhat bored though, so I think they're using more of the 'put them back in the place' method rather than teaching the pup to anticipate a release command before they get rewarded.
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8-week old puppies doing bite work? Only if biting each other while playing counts <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />. And, I agree that those are not 9 week old puppies unless, of course, they are going to be 200 lb adults <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />. Or, since they're wearing halters, maybe they're actually a rare breed of horse (rofl)?
Dan Oas Webboard User Reg: 09-21-2004
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There is at least one adult also in a down,
and if they're providing the que for the pups,
this is certainly doable at least for the pic.
But it is just a picture, so I ain't buying they
were there for 30 minutes!
...Belgian Ring bite training starts at the age off 4 weeks...
True. But there is a BIG difference between doing puppy tug work and actual adult-type bitework. Most good trainers will start to imprint bitework at a very early (SchH, Ring, etc).
I'm not sure how whoever stated that they had 8 wekk old pups doing bitework advertised it, but it seems fishy to me. Just like those that advertise "fully trained personal protection dogs" that are 10 months old.
And cost $30,000.
Or those that show a picture of 9 week old pups doing a 30 minute long down <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
I start to feel iffy when they call foundation work on puppies 'actual bitework' or even 'protection work'. Even if you put puppies that age on a bite suit (which I saw these people do, albeit in a video clip), it's still play...to call it anything else is just falsifying whatever it is you're doing, IMHO. All dogs bite.
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