Re: Watch out you hunters and your dogs......
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#126320 - 01/25/2007 08:54 PM |
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Re: Watch out you hunters and your dogs......
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Hee hee.....and gravy
I must admit that sauteed mushrooms and onions or bleu cheese crumbles on an elk steak are one of my favorites.
I know....those poor veggies
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Re: Watch out you hunters and your dogs......
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#126327 - 01/25/2007 09:49 PM |
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Oh my gosh that is funny cause my childhood bestfriend , her dad was a trophy hunter and a taxidermist.I remember she was having a sleepingover and it ended up being her & I in her living room where we were sleeping on the floor in sleeping bags and all around us were African wild animals staring at us.The walls were covered of heads and on the floor stood a lion, a Zebra,a baby buffalo, and some others ,I had a hard time sleeping that night
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Re: Watch out you hunters and your dogs......
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i'm personally not real big on trophy hunting either, i came from the school of "if you killed it, you eat it". but if others are out there doing it, as long as it's done in a humane fashion, i don't really have a problem with it.
the one kind of hunting i really am not keen on is foxing with hounds. it's my understanding it's a gentleman's game of following your dogs around until they kill something, usually in the most gruesome manner possible, after which you enjoy tea and crumpets. not a whole lot of "sport", and doesn't exactly strike me as humane.
re the original post, i have two pet peeves in these groups of people: 1) extremist vegans. i've never yet met a vegan who looked healthy without ingesting fistfuls of extra vitamins and crap every day. kinda suggests to me that maybe our systems weren't designed for a herbivorous diet?
2) gun control fanatics. anyone who says it's not fun to shoot a gun probably hasn't shot a gun.
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Re: Watch out you hunters and your dogs......
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Foxes caused british farmers loads of problems & were considered pests. Consequently the farmers allowed members of the hunt to utilize their land in exchange for keeping the vermin fox population down. The fox has a very good chance of going to ground & getting away from the hounds & thereby living to meet again another day! The amount of time spent chasing the fox is really not that long. It is a very misunderstood sport, & hence the current climate in England. I for one would miss the sounds of the horn & the cry of the hounds.
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Re: Watch out you hunters and your dogs......
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#126350 - 01/26/2007 01:54 AM |
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I've hunted with a number of terriermen from Great Britian and they've all commented about how bad the anti-hunting folks are over there. One commented on seeing a NRA sticker in a car window by saying that would get you a new windo over there.
Susan, when the fox goes to ground, that's what the terriers are for. Bolt em (chase them back out) or kill em, depending on what kind of terrier and what part of the country you hunt. Fox are considered vermine over there and are as numerous as coyotes are in much of the U.S.A.
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Re: Watch out you hunters and your dogs......
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#126363 - 01/26/2007 08:04 AM |
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I'd like to see them (peta pukes) try it (interferint with a hunt) out in our neck of the woods. Rural Missouri, where we still have whole families of people who fill their freezers with game. Of course some of those same families are traditional poachers and road hunters....but that's another story.
Too bad the grandma and her grandson didn't have a hunting dog, or a PPD in their car...
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Re: Watch out you hunters and your dogs......
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#126385 - 01/26/2007 09:45 AM |
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I live in a rural part of MA, Cape Cod to be exact...near the tip. We certainly have hunting season here. On a pennisula, it's very easy for the deer population to explode.
The only kind of hunting that we have here that I don't agree with is ring-neck pheasant. They release these birds and then get out the beagles and have an hunt in the National Seashore.
These birds are not an indigenous species and completely unsuited to the climate here, and have no idea how to feed themselves since they were captive-bred.
So if they're not killed, they freeze or starve to death, and this happens frequently. I see no point to this.
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Re: Watch out you hunters and your dogs......
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#126390 - 01/26/2007 10:01 AM |
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I have used captive-bred pheasant and chucker in training my German Shorthair Pointer, but never for a real hunt. It takes the excitement away. But I have to confess, I don't hunt as often as I should or would like to. I do the training for my dog because I enjoy it.
Anyway, captive-bred game birds have little chance for survival even in a better suited climate. They just don't know how to survive in the wild.
Any other hunters have an opinion on this?
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Re: Watch out you hunters and your dogs......
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#126392 - 01/26/2007 10:17 AM |
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It sounds a little unfair to me too. I have many friends who hunt but they go where the game they're hunting is native. I have a friend from out of town staying with me now who is one of these hunters and I just showed him this post. He said that it kind of takes the challenge away if you're hunting an animal that has no natural defenses-not even the familiarity of the land which would aid in hiding.
Shooting a disoriented bird, he said, isn't what he considers real hunting. He said it's like shooting fish in a barrel, and that the real joy of hunting for him is when his is able to outwit his prey. He does hunt fowl as well as rabbit and larger game, with and without dogs.
His suggestion is that the birds should at least be raised in a similar environment to what they will be released into, but even that isn't really that challenging.
Sorry to quote someone not on the board, but I thought he had good points (and he's pro-hunting).
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