I'm going to quote DFROST

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Just to make a point MSpindler, notice how I responded without trying to insult you.

Butch: DFROST, you are one hell of a gentlemen. My hats off to you!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Butch: "Let's all learn from this sad experience"

well Sasha had gotten her booster shots and i got caught up there. unfortunately i thought i had time being that she was not around many dogs at all. and all that she had been around had been vaccinated. i didnt know about it festering in the dirt and grounds of parks. unfortunately there are so many "facts" from so many different people about the same thing. i've run accross all types of information. i do know this. next time i have a puppy it's routine vaccinations for me. i will never take that chance again.My little girl is no longer here because of my hesitance. i really did get caught up in all the opinions out there, so hopefully next time when i get all my routine vaccines or atleast teeters(sp) it will be the right thing.

DFrost, no I don't think it was harsh. You insinuated that everyone who tries to give advice not to vaccinate is giving bad advice. And not everyone who has been given advice about not vaccinating is a "victim". I've seen the first-hand what vaccines can do to an animal...not just to mine, but to other people's dogs also. And it seems that I'm hearing more and more reports all the time of other people whose animals began having serious problems after vaccinations. It isn't an imaginary problem, and I don't take kindly to people phrasing things the way you did in your original post, and acting like those of us who choose not to vaccinate are nut cases.

Any time anything like this happens to an animal, especially to a puppy, it is incredibly sad. Bounette, I'm very sorry for your loss. Try not to beat yourself up over it. You did what you thought was best, and Sasha knows that too. She is at peace, and she will never suffer again. She doesn't blame you for what happened and will be waiting for you at the Rainbow Bridge.

I've seen the first-hand what vaccines can do to an animal...not just to mine, but to other people's dogs also. And for every one of those...how many have 'we' seen first-hand what can happen to an animal not vaccinated?

Too sad to even think about Todd.

Bounetteyvette,

You said you gave puppy boosters. At what age was the last booter given? If you gave the shot at 16 weeks or after then it was very bad luck that your dog died. After 16 weeks the pup should not have needed (or what the vets recommend) another Parvo shot til the next years annual vaccinations. I personally will not vaccinate after the age of 16 weeks for DHLPP. In my opinion it is not necessary. I do not go get a measles shot every year. My body recognizes the virus (from being vaccinated) and will kill it upon contact. I think the same goes for Parvo etc.. Once the body gets vaccinated for the diseases it remembers this virus. Any contact with it, the bodies immune system should recoginize it as a threat and send out the troops. If the dog had a weak immune system for some reason then I can see the virus "sneaking" by but that could happen with a dog that is vaccinated yearly as well. I worked for a vet for 8 years and the two worst cases of Parvo I saw were two dogs from the same family, one died, one lived. Both were vaccinated yearly..You did what you thought was best. Do not blame yourself for this dog's death.

Just for good measure I keep a bottle of Colloidal Silver on hand (a natural antibiotic). It kills bacteria as well as viruses. It does kill the Parvo virus and many holistic vets use this. I highly recommend this product for any infection. It can be used topically, injected, orally, and put straight into the eyes. You should be able to get it at your local health food store.

I'm very sorry for your loss bounetteyvette. I have a 7 month old female and i couldn't imagine losing her.I'm curious about the booster shots you had given her, how many shots and at what ages were they given? I'm assuming these were cocktail vaccines(dhlpp)or similar. I'm not a vet and i could be wrong but i think even if you do get all the required puppy shots there is no 100% guarentee that your pup will not contract parvo. I think if the shot or shots are given too early they can be ineffective do to maternal antibody interference. I think between 16 -18 weeks is usually when the last shot in a set of 3 or 4 is given. At this age enough of the maternal antibody is gone so the immune system can be stimulated. Like i said i'm not a vet and there are a lot of different opinions on this. Before you get your next pup, read as much as you can on this subject of vaccination's and then make your own informed decision. Once again, my condolence to you and your family, God Bless

Mspindler I think you get a kick out of insulting people who don't share your views. I think you should take a step back and not think your way is the only way. I got the same insulting gesture from you about the B.A.R.F. diet. Get off your high horse and be a little more receptive.

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Just for good measure I keep a bottle of Colloidal Silver on hand (a natural antibiotic). It kills bacteria as well as viruses. It does kill the Parvo virus and many holistic vets use this.

Excellent advice, Karmen. Colloidal Silver is wonderful and works very well for all sorts of different things. I keep it on hand and use it whenever my dogs get sick. It's expensive, but well worth the cost.

And as for you Rock, I don't really care what you think. Frankly, I'm sick and tired of people telling ME to "be a little more receptive" when there are a bunch of people out here who believe that, since they've always done things one way and that's how their vet tells them they should do it, that it's the best way. Whether you want to hear it or not, vets do sometimes tell you to do things because it benefits them financially...not all vets, but some. DFrost's first post took a negative tone towards those who don't vaccinate. If you're going to make a comment like that, you better expect that you're going to get a reaction.

So, Rock, maybe you and a few other people should take your advice to "take a step back and not think your way is the only way" and "Get off your high horse and be a little more receptive". Guess what, it works both ways! I used to do the vaccination thing, just like everyone else, but I now realize that it wasn't necessarily the best thing for my animals. I'm aware of both sides of this issue, and my choice was well thought out. Some people are blindly following what their vets are telling them. Do you know how many times I've heard, "Oh I have to do it because the vet said so"! What about what your animals health & behavior are telling you? Just because the vet tells you something, doesn't mean it's the best thing for your animal. Some people will not even stop to take that into consideration. So, until YOU can admit that your way of doing things isn't the only way, don't talk to me about needing to be receptive. And if you can't do the very thing you're suggesting that I do, then guess what....you can bite me! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

And if you think I'm being harsh or that I'm insulting people, you don't know me very well. Trust me, when I'm being harsh, you're gonna know it....and you ain't seen nothin yet! This is me being nice <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

well Sasha got 2 booster shots. i purchased her at the age of 9 weeks old and after the breeders told me shady that all the puppies recieved their boosters and where they supposedly got them at, i called the vet. and came to find out that they had never stepped foot into that vet for anything but the vet. knew of them because they told another lady who purchased a puppy from them that they went there for their boosters also. so in all reality none of the puppies received any boosters. so Sasha was ten weeks old before i got her her first booster, and the vet told me that they need 3 booster shots at about 3 weeks apart and the last one has the rabies in it also.this is when i start reading and asking questions about vaccines and thought i should not give her 3 boosters in 4 weeks.so i got the first one and then 4 1/2 wks. later i got the other.