Re: Is it ok to do half raw and half kibble??
[Re: Jan Williamson ]
#134666 - 03/22/2007 11:36 AM |
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I have been reading some different opinions, and the best I can come up with is that the jury is still out to lunch on this. It has always been a no-no, but apparently some new research has or is being done which debunks the old theory. I’ll keep searching until I can find something concrete, but I just thought I’d toss out that someone somewhere is re-visiting this issue.
I heard this too, third-hand.
If you see anything about it, I'd appreciate a link.
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Re: Is it ok to do half raw and half kibble??
[Re: Jan Williamson ]
#134668 - 03/22/2007 11:51 AM |
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I fed half raw and half kibble for nearly a year before swithing to all raw. I always seperated the meals by at least 10 hrs, and my dog never had a problem with it.
I made the switch to all raw when her allergies started flaring up again, it has helped, and my dog loves her food.
If you are just a bit nervous about getting everything right, I'd go ahead and feed them raw, and just research it well over the next couple of weeks. Even if you find what you are feeding is a little inbalanced, 2-3 weeks of feeding it won't hurt your dogs. The sample menu here on the Leerburg site would be a great resource great to help you get going.
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Re: Is it ok to do half raw and half kibble??
[Re: Mara Jessup ]
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I have read in many places what Enrique said. That's why I'm waiting for the kibble bag to be empty to switch my dog cold-turkey. I'm trying to get my ingredients ready for the switch. How much salmon oil should I get for 1 dog? and how long would that last? I've seen a gallon for as low as $26.
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Re: Is it ok to do half raw and half kibble??
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#134674 - 03/22/2007 12:06 PM |
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By feeding "half raw and half kibble" you mean raw for one meal and kibble for the other, that has been done successfully by many people. My information is that kibble and raw at the same meal may now also be acceptable.
I'll continue to update as more information becomes available, or, if anyone else has read anything, I'd be interested in hearing about it.
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Re: Is it ok to do half raw and half kibble??
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#134683 - 03/22/2007 12:40 PM |
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Enrique I agree but I want to add that in the past I can say that I have made the mistake of mixing meat with kibble,I also did kibble morning, meat the evening. i cant say anything wrong happened to my dogs that cost them to be rushed to the vet.The only thing I can say about that is that my dogs would gain weight or be under weigh at times. I think when you mix the two rather it's together or seperately,forget about the digestion problems it causes,it is VERY hard to control the RIGHT amount of protein you are giving your dog daily. And also the right amount of calcium or over doing those supplements etc... I thinks that is where the problem is more then the "digestive part" sure it's is a problem still but I think the "calories and over doing certain supplements is really what I had a problem with.Let's not forget that Kibbles have tons of added artificial supplements, vitamins and so then when you add RMBs' and other stuff you can overload your dog with that stuff and that can be a huge problem later on. I am speaking from experience in past mistakes. I have done so much research on the Raw diet and natural feedings, I can say that if you can do half raw ,just go all the way and make it 100%, you'll achieve a better result and your dog will be adequately fed
Alex, salmoon oil comes with a pump, on push to the pump is good for one dog..
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Re: Is it ok to do half raw and half kibble??
[Re: Angelique Cadogan ]
#134691 - 03/22/2007 01:09 PM |
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The only thing I can say about that is that my dogs would gain weight or be under weigh at times. I think when you mix the two rather it's together or seperately,forget about the digestion problems it causes,it is VERY hard to control the RIGHT amount of protein you are giving your dog daily. And also the right amount of calcium or over doing those supplements etc... I thinks that is where the problem is more then the "digestive part" sure it's is a problem still but I think the "calories and over doing certain supplements is really what I had a problem with.Let's not forget that Kibbles have tons of added artificial supplements, vitamins and so then when you add RMBs' and other stuff you can overload your dog with that stuff and that can be a huge problem later on.
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Re: Is it ok to do half raw and half kibble??
[Re: Angelique Cadogan ]
#134699 - 03/22/2007 01:40 PM |
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....Alex, salmoon oil comes with a pump, on push to the pump is good for one dog..
Angelique, how much should it last for 1 dog though? I'm not sure whether to buy 16 oz, 32 oz, 1/2 gal, or 1 gal. Obiviously, I'd like to save money, but will buying the larger amounts last too long or spoil?
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Re: Is it ok to do half raw and half kibble??
[Re: Alex Corral ]
#134703 - 03/22/2007 02:48 PM |
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....Alex, salmoon oil comes with a pump, on push to the pump is good for one dog..
. . .how much should it last for 1 dog though? I'm not sure whether to buy 16 oz, 32 oz, 1/2 gal, or 1 gal.
I'm always open to a good deal, but I'd have to question the quality and purity $25/gal salmon oil. You can search this forum and find posts re: oil sources and the comparative benefits of different types of oil. I use Grizzly and the best I've seen is ~$25/qt. The bottle says store away from light at room temp (which I do) or refrigerate.
My 65# GSD gets 3 pumps a day, and a qt. will last me about 2-1/2 - 3 mos.
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Re: Is it ok to do half raw and half kibble??
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#134704 - 03/22/2007 03:13 PM |
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....Alex, salmoon oil comes with a pump, on push to the pump is good for one dog..
. . .how much should it last for 1 dog though? I'm not sure whether to buy 16 oz, 32 oz, 1/2 gal, or 1 gal.
I'm always open to a good deal, but I'd have to question the quality and purity $25/gal salmon oil. You can search this forum and find posts re: oil sources and the comparative benefits of different types of oil. I use Grizzly and the best I've seen is ~$25/qt. The bottle says store away from light at room temp (which I do) or refrigerate.
My 65# GSD gets 3 pumps a day, and a qt. will last me about 2-1/2 - 3 mos.
Mike
Ditto on never having seen a distilled or mercury-tested fish oil for $25/gallon. In fact, none of the good ones come in gallons, as far as I know.
It matters because of the heavy metal residue in inferior products.
Reminder: It's not fish LIVER oil we want for the amounts talked about here. Fish LIVER oil would be too close to OD levels of oil-soluble vitamins if given in amounts for maximum benefits.
JMO.
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Re: Is it ok to do half raw and half kibble??
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I personally feed the raw and kibble at different times. I have a friend that puts ground beef or deer on top of the kibble but not mixed. he says the dog will eat the raw off top then the kibble, i tried it and she never ate the kibble first. However i have also heard about the food digesting differently and the possibility of causing stomach problems. So instead of feeding ground on top of kibbble, i moved to feeding raw in the a.m. and kibble in the p.m. never had a problem but i now feed all raw 2 days a week and kibble the other days. i am slowly switching to all raw due to tartar build up on Roxie's teeth.
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