Mike Arnold Webboard User Reg: 07-09-2004
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Mr. Cardone,
I read all the responses to your post, and agree, generally with them. Personally, I use an e-collar for really serious training, and in enclosed areas.
If you want a pet to walk with you, and to mind you, you can get you a prong collar and a long line, and at a cost cheaper than an e-collar. In either case, whether using an e-collar or a prong collar, you must understand how to use the device.
Whether an e-collar or prong collar, the idea is to prompt the dog or to remind the dog to respond to a command. Neither device is used as a prolonged time stimulant. A jolt of a pop. Not a continual 'light-up or 'haul and jerk' training approach.
So... Another two cents. I use all the various tools available to train my mutts. The device I have used most frequently is a 'good dog collar' - a variation on a prong collar. But once a dog is trained, I'm not sure any device other than a regular collar is essential to good manners.
There are no 2 hour trained dogs - in my opinion.
Mike A.
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Carol,
I did not mean the crutch part in regard to your post. I agree that a dog should be taught obedience through positive methods until the behavior or action is learned.
My reference to the crutch was in reponse to what the trainer at this conference told me. I have seen so many K9's that have conflict issues between the handler and dog during man work. A properly conditioned dog to an e- collar is a joy to work and tactically safer to work on the street.
Carol Boche Webboard User Reg: 10-30-2005
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No worries, I know that.
I just read my posts again and did not want anyone to think that I was against an e-collar. Just against how they are sometimes used.
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I got a cheapo efence for my lab about four days of showing him where his line is (and shaving his neck where the prongs touch) and he gets two feet from the flags and turns around and says forget that lol he learned really fast but now I need to encourage him to go outside more since he is very skitish but he will go and play with other dogs and play with me that woman is the type of person that needs to be put on a shock collar and shown what it feels like to be hurt like that she is also the type that should be banned from owning or being near dogs
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005
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Quote: pierre cormier
.... that woman is the type of person that needs to be put on a shock collar and shown what it feels like to be hurt like that she is also the type that should be banned from owning or being near dogs
Again, as Will pointed out, we don't need two threads going on about that Chicago e-collar "trainer" news story.
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