I use the pager as a recall almost soley. It doesn't seem to bother my dog, he keeps on truckin, just changes direction and heads towards me. I use a short page to tell him he's going to far away from me and he'll come closer but not to my side. I use a longer page and he'll come to my area, real close. If he's in the yard I'll give him 2 short pages, then call his name and he comes runnin and heals. If I can see that he ignores the page I'll start with the corrections so he knows if he disobeys the pager, he get a stim. He rarely, if never, ignores the pager.
I use the pager similarly. It sure beats yelling especially when the dog is far away. Even better is when I have no idea where the he is and he knows that the vibration means find me right away. The pager makes life sooo much easier in this regard.
13 years ago when I was training my Doberman, Amelia, I used an electronic training collar that had a tone as well as stimulation. In training, I always preceeded stimulation to give her a chance to respond. It only took a few stimulations before she got the message. I rarely if ever again needed the stimulation. She was a moderately soft dog.
She died last July and I am just beginning again. I bought Ed's video and a Dogta 200. I don't believe Ed directly addresses this, but when she gets a little older and I begin using the collar, I suspect I will use this technique as well.
Maybe if Ed is reading this, he hopefully will have a comment.
I used the e-collar on my 7 month old pup today for the first time. He's been slamming himself against the sliding glass door. He freaked out when I pushed the pager. It kept him off the glass door though.
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I use the pager as a que for recall because I can't whistle for a darn. Works excellently for me, but it makes introducing/acclimating the dog to the ecollar take a bit longer as I do not intro the pager and stim at the same time, first page as recall que, only when I have used the page consistently for recall over the course of a couple weeks with the use of a long line as backup, then introducing the stim as correction.
Takes about a month to 6 weeks, and I reintroduce the use of treat reward for the pager recall (I stop using treat rewards at around 6 months of age on average, and intro the Ecollar at around 8-9 months to a year) so the initial collar experiences are pleasant.
The diversity of responses to this issue is very interesting to me. I suspect a lot has to do with how each dog responds to the vibration. I note that Dogtra has little to say about the use of vibration, nor does Ed. I do appreciate your comments. Jeta is still a little young for me to begin using the collar, other than to acclimate her to it, but I will definitely report my progress in trying the vibration as a first step warning (that is depending on how she responds to it)
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