Re: Teaching Puppy NO!
[Re: Louanne Manter ]
#141139 - 05/09/2007 10:36 AM |
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He is not going to learn that way at all.
If he is mouthing your son, you as the pack leader need to correct it. At 6 months it is now okay to start correcting him for that, and I would teach your son how to redirect to a toy.
Muzzling the dog for that is wrong in my opinion. He obviously is not going to associate the muzzle with your boy. He obviously sees your boy as lower ranking.
I would not recommend this type of training at all. Just my opinion.
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Re: Teaching Puppy NO!
[Re: Louanne Manter ]
#141143 - 05/09/2007 10:38 AM |
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All good advice, I just thought I'd add that I've found switching the dog off to a toy very helpful...so, proceed with the usual, "NO" in your firm voice, then after a few moments, offer a toy.
After a few days of doing this with my puppy, he caught on. He still has his nipping moments, but usually it's because he needs a walk or he's hungry.
Be thankful you aren't raising my manchester terrier, she was a toothed nightmare.
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Re: Teaching Puppy NO!
[Re: Carol Boche ]
#141144 - 05/09/2007 10:39 AM |
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He is not going to learn that way at all.
If he is mouthing your son, you as the pack leader need to correct it. At 6 months it is now okay to start correcting him for that, and I would teach your son how to redirect to a toy.
Muzzling the dog for that is wrong in my opinion. He obviously is not going to associate the muzzle with your boy. He obviously sees your boy as lower ranking.
I would not recommend this type of training at all. Just my opinion. Totally agree with Carol.
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Re: Teaching Puppy NO!
[Re: Heather Williams ]
#141146 - 05/09/2007 10:48 AM |
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...so, proceed with the usual, "NO" in your firm voice, then after a few moments, offer a toy.
If you wait a few moments after correction you are going to miss the window of teaching the dog what behavior is not acceptable......timing, timing, timing is crucial here.....
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Re: Teaching Puppy NO!
[Re: Carol Boche ]
#141147 - 05/09/2007 10:52 AM |
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...so, proceed with the usual, "NO" in your firm voice, then after a few moments, offer a toy.
If you wait a few moments after correction you are going to miss the window of teaching the dog what behavior is not acceptable......timing, timing, timing is crucial here.....
Oh, whoops.
Wait, so I should give the toy AS I say "No" to the biting?
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Re: Teaching Puppy NO!
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#141151 - 05/09/2007 11:03 AM |
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With any training I do, timing is essential to getting the behavior I want.
If my pup is chewing on me, I calmy pull a toy out of "somewhere" and do not say a word to the pup...I then offer the toy and the pup takes it and it is a BIG party "good dog" woo hoo, no teeth marks today.
Same goes for any training....if they are jumping on me, they are redirected to perform something else and theuy get a treat for it. INSTANTLY.
My male now runs up to me, starts to jump, then goes into a sit in front of me because he now knows that this behavior gets him the reward, jumping on me makes me ignore him and he gets nothing.
Female is starting to get it also, but is a bit slower as she has more independence and a little attitude to go with it.
It is like when you leave a dog loose in the house while your gone, come home to find a pile a poop on the floor, and then rub his nose in it and throw him outside.
He DOES NOT know that the poop on the floor is wrong, he is going to think that whatever he was doing at the time you found it, got pissed and threw him out was the incorrect behaviour and will probably start associating you coming home as a BAD thing.
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Re: Teaching Puppy NO!
[Re: Heather Williams ]
#141152 - 05/09/2007 11:04 AM |
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Also it might help to read this:
http://www.leerburg.com/bitingpuppies.htm
NOWHERE in the discussion is there a muzzle.
But you will find the ways to correct with calmness, or to redirect.
There is also a leadership link that I'd follow and print out too.
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Re: Teaching Puppy NO!
[Re: Louanne Manter ]
#141837 - 05/16/2007 05:13 AM |
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Well, I hope no one thinks I'm crazy for even considering this, but I read somewhere that if you put your hand do the back of the dog's mouth when he or she bites you, that he will learn to assosiate his hand in your mouth with gagging, and stop nipping you. It this legit, or just cruel? Thanks.
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Re: Teaching Puppy NO!
[Re: Heather McKenzie ]
#141841 - 05/16/2007 07:18 AM |
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Uh....I stay away from the back of my dogs mouths, as they have really good grip.......hee hee
Just kiddin.....
I have heard that too, although I don't know if it is true or not. It just did not seem to be a very effective training method to me.
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Re: Teaching Puppy NO!
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#141851 - 05/16/2007 09:17 AM |
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...It just did not seem to be a very effective training method to me. It's not
When Lear did the biting thing I tried putting my hand in his mouth (tried a lot of things). Nothing worked and if it did it was VERY temporary (even diversion). No good foundation was ever set with anything I tried, no lasting imprint. A change in attitude (mine) was what worked.
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