Michele McAtee Webboard User Reg: 02-05-2006
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There are also *certified* helpers through DVG and I believe USA. I *think* there is testing required, etc. It is my opinion any "certified nut" Heeeheee can take a bite...but experienced and/or certified know angles, stress on dog, etc that a learning decoy may not be tuned into...but of course everyone has to start somewhere.
As for nerves under the bite, just try to see if there is the right dog/helper at the club you go to who will try a bite on with you standing in close proximity (back turned)...I tried it and damn, that dog was powerful. I swear I could feel a gush of wind with the velocity and force that dog had on the (THANK GOD) "bad man" next to me!!!
It is less impressive when he is comming towards you and you're concentrating on what you have to do; holding your arm correct absorbing the impact etc. Sometimes i find myself with the dog on my arm and i'm thinking where the hell did he come from, although i saw him whole the way and i was doing everything correct. Just question of concentrating on the 1/1000th of a second you're in.
It becomes difficult when it is hot and it is the 10th attack in a full bitesuit and you're about to blackout from the heat. Those are themoments you have to be carefull.
Oh, I didn't even think about weather conditions. I'd be out in a heartbeat under the sun in a suit, my car is bad enough some days (no A/C, tinted windows, GIANT beast of a car and 95º+ heat)!
Bruises and punctures? Eh, sounds lime home! Just kidding, but my roommates and I sometimes run up on each other and give "the Pedigree" or other such wrestling game moves as a surprise "attack" if someone is looking sad, which can lead to accidently knees-in-the-noses, chin-to-the-chests, and my personal favorite *eyeroll* face-to-the-spine. :P A bite in a sleeve doesn't sound so bad after that!
i read an a summary of an experiment done by the dutch airforce on thier dogtrainers. These guys wear dutchKNVP suits which are airier than the BR suits we use. The findings were that with 5 dogs doing 5 excercises (bites)the body temperature rose to a dangerous level. They recommended no bitetraining when the temperature is higher than 17 °c
Will Rambeau Moderator Reg: 01-25-2003
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I can believe his temp figures.
In the dead of summer here in Florida before say, 11am, I can work about eight mins. in my bite suit ( a thick training suit for green decoys ) before I have to shed it and cool off. I could maybe work an extra dog if I was wearing the lighter competition suit, but not by much....
We've become so temp. sensitive in our club that we actually do little bite work during the summer months now - it's pretty much sharpen up on our OB and tracking until it cools off.
But the trade off is that we can work all year long, the winter months are great training times for us.
I am sure it was, i wasn't trying to cast doubt on it.
Dog temperature can raise also very quick, even in moderate temperatures. A dog can get so excited that his bodytemperature raises to a dangerous level. Besides the excitement in the heat of the action when the dog is putting in the most physical effort the major part of his cooling system is blocked. When he's biting his mouth is blocked and he can't release heat that way.
ok, heres a question, how do i get my dog interested in biting something i want him to bite?
my dogs like to chase and bite the rope and a palm tree branch..but not the sleeve or anything else i want them to target.
and also how do i get my dog to switch into an attack stage if all they wana do is play.
they 7 months now but show no sort of aggression.
except to each other if they wana get each others food..
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Re: Becoming the target - sleever/suit-wearers?
can take a bite...but experienced and/or certified know angles, stress on dog, etc that a learning decoy may not be tuned into...but of course everyone has to start somewhere. 
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