Quote: David Eagle

How much can a dogs body temp raise the temperature in a crate throughout the day, if the windows of the car are down and the outside temp is 75ish? Do I need a fan?

I think the only way to really be sure is to buy the thermometer and monitor the temps for a few days. With and without the fan. Then you will know 100% if you need the fan and that your dog is comfortable and safe.

Edited by Shody Lytle (11/14/2007 11:41 AM)
Edit reason: spelling

After confirming what your local ordinance/law states, I'd ask the nosey busy bodies, if they think it was better for the dog to be at home for the whole (12) hour shift plus commute time and have no opportunities for training, et cetera?

I'm glad to see that I am not the only one that opts for some vehicle time. :-) Many times I will take the pup with me versus leaving him home, so he has the time with me in the vehicle while driving, change of scenary, et cetera versus staying home during that whole time.

Cheers!

thank you all for backing me and confirming my belief. This man also is a drunk who treats his wife worse than I would treat a stray dog. I am going to confront him and be very nice and explain alot of dog things to him.If the temp in the truck is over 80 I have to run the fan and put ice in front of it or do not take him. I love my dogs and would never do anything that would harm them. I had my GSD in the truck last year when it got down to 25 and they all cried. He loves the cold and it does not get cold here in Texas. People put to many human thoughts into dogs and want what would be goog for them. Well long enough. Got to go feed some chicken to my slaves

The flip side to all this is, and I'm guessing you'd all agree or you wouldn't even be a part of this board, is that although it can be aggravating sometimes, I think it's far better to have the general public care about the welfare of animals, and yes, interfere when they think the animal might not be OK, then to have the general public walk by your car and think, "I don't give a rat's ass about the animal...it's not my dog". There are far too many abused, neglected and mistreated animals in the world just as hearing a stranger "trouble" themselves over a strange dog is far too rare.

Unfortunately most people are not as educated about dogs and their wellbeing as you guys are. I guess what I'm saying is their ignorance and subsequent, sometimes misguided actions probably come from a place that is well intentioned.

I think, too, you'll all agree that it takes time and effort to learn and understand animals and what's best for them. Perhaps Mitch, and I realize he's a drunk which is unfortunate, but look on the bright side and consider taking this as an opportunity to briefly try to inform the man - a 2 minute conversation may be just all you need.

And to those who think, "No way, I'm not going to bother. It's not my job to educate the public", well, you're right, it's not. I'm simply pointing out a choice you have in the matter.

Since it has cooled I also have been taking my dog to work.
On breaks we run, play fetch, obedience train, track,
bite work, walk, drink out of the lake and I have been working some 12 hour days. I think she is very happy to come with me.
She does more in one day with me at work then some people ever do with there dogs.

 Quote: steve mcdonald

She does more in one day with me at work then some people ever do with there dogs.

Wow. It's sad that this is completely and totally true.

I totally agree with what Judy said. I would rather someone hassle me about what I'm doing with my dog and me having to explain than to have people not give a rip about how people are treating their dogs. As Judy said, there are far too many abused, mistreated and neglected dogs that have had the misfortune of ending up with mean or idiot owners - someone has to care about them, so I'd rather not try and shut those people up, even if they question me about something they think I'm doing wrong.

That's true, but this person Mitch is complaining about sees this all the time, and knows Mitch checks on the dog, etc. We're not talking about some random passerby who has no idea how long the dog's been in there, or when the owner's coming back, etc., etc. I have once or twice returned to my car to find someone waiting nearby to see when I'd be back, worried that the dogs were forgotten, and I thanked them. That's fine. What's obnoxious is when someone knows full well that you take excellent care of your dogs, but they simply disagree w/the principle, and threaten repurcussions. This is a coworker-not an innocent ignoramous.

I have been taking my now 6 month old puppy to work with me since I got him at 9 weeks old. On the hotter summer days he slept in a crate under my desk & the cooler days he is in my truck with crate fans running. My truck is parked under the roof overhang of the building & is totally out of the elements. I use a remote start to run my truck with the a/c to keep the truck cool if needed & now that it is cooler outisde temps I use the remote to run the truck with the heater on. Sometimes if I am going somewhere right after work with my dogs & will take all 3 with me to work. I go out at lunch & walk, train & play with my pup. When he was younger & needed multiply bathroom breaks I would take him out every couple of hours to 'go'. I DID have a 'meaningful' person in the building call the police on me for having my pup in the truck. It was pretty funny actually, I know the K9 cops in my town & also know the aminal control guys that came out to answer the complaint. When they arrived my truck was running with the a/c & also running were 2 crate fans on his crate. The cops laughed when they saw it was me & said that they could see that my pup was fine & didn't really understand the call for a dog in distress in the truck. Now mind you, this pup has been to work with me for 5 months during which time just about everyone in the building has seen me with him at one time or another. I have also had people comment on the fact that it is cruel for me to leave my pup in the truck all day ( I work 6 hours daily). I just tell them that my dogs think it is cruel of me if I DON"T take them with me in the truck whenever I leave the house. They hate being left behind. They would rather spend the day in the truck, knowing that they are with me, then at home without me. It is rare that I ever go out without a dog or 2 or all 3 with me. BTW My truck is parked just outside my window & I can & do turn to look out at him very freequently throughout the day. I have told people also that 'working' dogs spend a good deal of their lives in a vehicle crate & are very happy there. I have had co workers tell me that they hear people comment about the pup in the truck & they have responded with the statement that most people should take as good care of their kids as I do my dogs. That usualy brings the comments to an end.