Cindy Easton Rhodes wrote 11/15/2007 08:35 PM Re: Crated in Car, Vomiting [Re: David Eagle ] #163293 - 11/15/2007 08:35 PM
Cindy Easton Rhodes Moderator Reg: 07-14-2001 Posts: 2069 Loc: Wisconsin Offline	She was vaccinated for Rabies 4 weeks ago? Seems to me that from your description of her lack of normal appetite and vomiting could be a vaccinosis reaction. I would be looking for a homeopath that can treat her. we have a list of holistic and homepathic vets, by state. http://leerburg.com/holisticvets.htm Cindy cindyr@leerburg.com
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David Eagle wrote 11/15/2007 08:39 PM Re: Crated in Car, Vomiting [Re: Cindy Easton Rhodes ] #163296 - 11/15/2007 08:39 PM
David Eagle Webboard User Reg: 08-17-2007 Posts: 528 Loc: La Habra, California Offline	Now I'm going to have to read. A lot, aren't I, Cindy? Any links you have to get me started? I understand Vaccinosis, but I've never studied it in depth. Some dogs hate hats.
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Yuko Blum wrote 11/15/2007 08:51 PM Re: Crated in Car, Vomiting [Re: David Eagle ] #163297 - 11/15/2007 08:51 PM
Yuko Blum Webboard User Reg: 11-20-2006 Posts: 1002 Loc: Offline	David: unfortunately every single time your pup receives a vaccine, you're risking vaccinosis. So while there may be risks in not vaccinating at all, there's always going to be a risk to vaccinate. It can be a REALLY tough issue to figure out, but reading up is a good idea. I personally opted to follow Cindy & Ed's advice and to go the 0 vaccine route with my current pup. She's amazingly healthy now at 8 months. My other two both had reactions to their shots at one time or another. Vomiting and lack of appetite is right at the top of the list of things to lookout for following a vaccine. Of course your vet will most likely say that unless the dog was sick immediately following the vaccine (as in, within a few hours), it's unrelated. Not true, vaccine reactions can easily appear days, weeks, even months after the shot. Best wishes for your pup. I hope she feels better soon.
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Debbie Bruce wrote 11/15/2007 09:32 PM Re: Crated in Car, Vomiting [Re: Yuko Blum ] #163303 - 11/15/2007 09:32 PM
Debbie Bruce Webboard User Reg: 08-23-2007 Posts: 1196 Loc: Centralia, Missouri Offline	Vaccines belong in the same category as cereal based dog foods as far as I'm concerned. Vets push both and make LOTS of money vaccinating animals and then medicating chronically ill animals. Vaccine information can be found at the following websites: http://home.earthlink.net/~pawsreflect/vaccinosis.html http://www.drpitcairn.com/talks/talks_intro.html http://www.bestfrisbeedogs.com/vaccinequestion.html http://thinktwice.com/nosodes...htm http://www.beaubijoukennels.com/canine_nutrition.htm http://www.doglogic.com/vaccinearts.htm http://www.ambertech.com has high quality herbal remedies for common dog and cat illnesses, including: parvo, distemper, kennel cough, and colds. They also have an herbal Vaccination and Dewormer Detox.
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Carol Boche wrote 11/15/2007 11:48 PM Re: Crated in Car, Vomiting [Re: David Eagle ] #163324 - 11/15/2007 11:48 PM
Carol Boche Webboard User Reg: 10-30-2005 Posts: 4531 Loc: South Dakota, USA Offline	When do you get test results back? I would try to entice her to eat with some boiled rice and skinless boneless white meat chicken and maybe some plain yogurt or cottage cheese. I hope everything turns out well. Until The Tale of the Lioness is told, the Story will Always Glorfy the Hunter
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David Eagle wrote 11/15/2007 11:48 PM Re: Crated in Car, Vomiting [Re: Debbie Bruce ] #163325 - 11/15/2007 11:48 PM
David Eagle Webboard User Reg: 08-17-2007 Posts: 528 Loc: La Habra, California Offline	Debbie: thanks so much for your PM. I'll be responding soon. Yuko: Thanks for the well wishes. Unfortunately in Southern California I have no choice about Rabies, it's mandated by law. Although it is only a misdemeanor... :p Some dogs hate hats.
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David Eagle wrote 11/15/2007 11:50 PM Re: Crated in Car, Vomiting [Re: David Eagle ] #163327 - 11/15/2007 11:50 PM
David Eagle Webboard User Reg: 08-17-2007 Posts: 528 Loc: La Habra, California Offline	Carol: She's on cottage cheese as part of her normal diet (1 tbsp / night) and I had her on oatmeal for two days after her first episode. I didn't try switching her to a less rich meat, so maybe I'll try white chicken meat. Results will be available tomorrow morning after 9am. We'll see how it looks then. Some dogs hate hats.
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David Eagle wrote 11/16/2007 12:51 PM Re: Crated in Car, Vomiting [Re: David Eagle ] #163386 - 11/16/2007 12:51 PM
David Eagle Webboard User Reg: 08-17-2007 Posts: 528 Loc: La Habra, California Offline	Blood test came back with no abnormalities. Fecal won't be in until monday. She's still refusing food. I got her to eat about 1 quarter of her normal meal last night, by hand feeding her. I put RMBs in her crate this morning and she just ignored them. Some dogs hate hats.
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Connie Sutherland wrote 11/16/2007 01:17 PM Re: Crated in Car, Vomiting [Re: David Eagle ] #163391 - 11/16/2007 01:17 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31580 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	You know the importance of water, right? Even if you have to simmer a piece of white chicken and then cool that water to room temp, the dog needs to be hydrated. Signs of dehydration require an immediate trip to the vet.
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Jenni Williams wrote 11/16/2007 01:36 PM Re: Crated in Car, Vomiting [Re: David Eagle ] #163395 - 11/16/2007 01:36 PM
Jenni Williams Webboard User Reg: 10-06-2005 Posts: 2686 Loc: llinois Offline	Quote: David Eagle Unfortunately in Southern California I have no choice about Rabies, it's mandated by law. Although it is only a misdemeanor... :p Oh, Puhleeeze! David, it's mandated everywhere. These are the times you gotta go a little renegade . Do you honestly think California is the only state that mandates rabies? I vaccinate for rabies when my dogs reach an age and temperament that they are LIKELY to bite someone. Caleb is the only dog in my house current on rabies, and that's b/c he's a jack@$$ and also b/c he went to Canada, and border patrol is not terribly lenient there. He was over 2 yrs old, and naturally I lied so I could do the 3yr instead of the one year, b/c they won't let you do a 3 yr right off the bat. I wait as long as possible to give rabies. Remember, you will only be charged if there's an incident ! Keep your dog under control. I would not have vaccinated her this young come hell or high water. Not saying that it's what caused this, or it's your fault, but I'll be damned if I let the gov't have a negative effect on MY babies' health. JM(renegade)O.
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