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[Re: Connie Sutherland ]
#186713 - 03/20/2008 12:53 PM |
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I cant believe that you can actually come up with serious information when typing those key words; i cant tell you how hilarious that is to me...
I didnt realize I should ask but now that you have (thanks,Mike) I think Lady has yeast overgrowth. there is one spot on her side where hair has never grown and its always a bit waxy to the touch and black-ish. she has had redish colored hair between her toes, and her feet smell a bit corny...
does this mean allergy to chicken?? Ive gone between kibble and raw, and am on raw now; primarily chicken. I cant afford to feed another kind of meat all the time. she has been on raw for about a month now, and doesnt ear any grains.
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Re: silly question
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The kibble is EVO with I think was on Ed's list of kibble that was acceptable. I can't find any of the other problem that you guys have stated.
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Re: silly question
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I hope my previous post about my dog being allergic to chicken wasn't misleading. Please read Connie's post at the bottom of page 1. As she states "one dog's allergy to chicken really has nothing to do with another dog's possible allergies." She also talks about grains being a trigger. My dog might be allergic to chicken (or the hormones/additives in the chicken) but yours might be allergic to grains, grass, etc.....
I did not mean to imply that corn chips and nacho cheese smells are directly linked to chicken allergies.
Good luck on your allergy search!
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Re: silly question
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#186757 - 03/20/2008 07:47 PM |
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... I think Lady has yeast overgrowth. ... does this mean allergy to chicken?? ..
Yes, it could mean an allergy flareup, common among several possible causes. Increased skin oils can happen in an allergic flare-up and present ripe conditions for yeast overgrowth on the skin.
If it was allergies, it doesn't even mean necessarily a food allergy (which is the least common kind of allergies for dogs).
And if it was a food allergy, it could be any protein-containing food.
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#186758 - 03/20/2008 07:56 PM |
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Mary, I'd get the vet to do a scraping or Scotch tape or Q-tip sampling or however the vet wants to do it, and find out.
Most yeasts do not even need to be seen under the microscope to confirm yeast infection.
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#186781 - 03/20/2008 11:21 PM |
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What would I do about it, if it was? I am pretty sure that she is allergic to fleas and have been battling hard to get a handle on it (the area where I live is flea haven, the neighbors dogs are swimming in them and sometimes I feel like we're living on a chemical diet for flea prevention) is flea prevention basicly the only answer?
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Re: silly question
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#186788 - 03/21/2008 08:19 AM |
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What would I do about it, if it was? I am pretty sure that she is allergic to fleas and have been battling hard to get a handle on it (the area where I live is flea haven, the neighbors dogs are swimming in them and sometimes I feel like we're living on a chemical diet for flea prevention) is flea prevention basicly the only answer?
First, find out if it is yeast. It's a simple skin test.
Then find out what's triggering it as you deal with the yeast and the cause.
If she has flea hypersensitivity, which is indeed ahead of inhalant/environmental allergies and FAR ahead of true food allergy in likelihood, then allowing fleas to bite her is bad for her. One exposure (to a hypersensitive dog) is enough to drive the dog crazy, even if it didn't also have a systemic effect.
I'd probably refuse entrance to flea-infested dogs, period, along with refusing to allow them access to your dog; I'd get the carpets and other fabric and the dog's bed and mat cleaned up and vacuumed .... all this along with the treatment you are using for the dog.
Flea hypersensitivity is as harmful to the system and the skin, etc., as any allergy.
But go find out about the yeast, because it requires special separate treatment.
The sooner the better, because it may be just the beginnings of a skin overgrowth --- and as such might react to topical meds.
JMO.
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Re: silly question
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#186821 - 03/21/2008 12:17 PM |
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Thanks  We have all the products for the enviroment and the dogs...she sleeps in my room and I havent noticed any fleas myself (they prefer her, Im sure) so its getting better. Oddly, we ourselves dont have half as much trouble with fleas as we do with ticks. But fleas are the ones that trigger the itching and hot spots.
The yeast is a seperate issue then? If the yeast overgrowth started when she was on kibble (yes it was science diet; im guilty as charged. the vet recommended it years ago to stop hot spots...)if it started then, it could continue even when shes been on raw? So I need to take care of that and then the raw diet *may* keep her skin healthy after that?
just want to make sure, hopefully Ill start to get the hang of nutrition....
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#186826 - 03/21/2008 12:27 PM |
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... The yeast is a seperate issue then? If the yeast overgrowth started when she was on kibble (yes it was science diet; im guilty as charged. the vet recommended it years ago to stop hot spots...)if it started then, it could continue even when shes been on raw? So I need to take care of that and then the raw diet *may* keep her skin healthy after that? ...
Not separate, because something allowed the yeast to gain the upper hand.
Skin infection: Anything that weakens the skin's immune system can allow a yeast skin infection to start: a bacterial infection, allergy, or other skin issue irritates skin that is then open to Malassezia. The yeast infection can be localized or generalized.
Muzzle, toes, anal area, ears ... common local sites.
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