Cameron Feathers wrote 04/16/2008 12:05 AM Re: Puppy Barking [Re: Carol Boche ] #190684 - 04/16/2008 12:05 AM
Cameron Feathers Webboard User Reg: 03-11-2008 Posts: 703 Loc: VA Offline	Quote: Carol Boche as long as they are quiet, they can do backflips in there if they want. I love the visual ;-) When a flower doesn't bloom, you fix the environment in which it grows, not the flower.
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Jason Bernard wrote 04/16/2008 12:07 AM Re: Puppy Barking [Re: Carol Boche ] #190685 - 04/16/2008 12:07 AM
Jason Bernard Webboard User Reg: 09-19-2006 Posts: 37 Loc: Sacramento, CA Offline	I didn't read all the replies so I don't know if this has been said already: You should also mark and reward when she is being quiet in her crate. I also put something in the crate before I put my pup in there, like a knuckle bone, or a kong stuffed with cream cheese and frozen. This way we don't have any bad feelings about going in the crate, and to him it seems like the crate just appears these things for him - or so I like to think lol. I also totally agree with Carol's Towel Theory - she should tm that btw. For when she won't stop acting up! Jason Everyone should try to be as good as their dog thinks they are.
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Barbara Fisher wrote 04/16/2008 05:51 AM Re: Puppy Barking [Re: Jason Bernard ] #190699 - 04/16/2008 05:51 AM
Barbara Fisher Webboard User Reg: 03-24-2008 Posts: 110 Loc: NJ Offline	I will definitely try the towel. I typically just ignore her, no eye contact, get the other dog out and leave. She really doesn't care. LOL Reba is getting out and SHE isn't. I do reward her every time she goes in her crate so it isn't a fight to get her in. She is even looking for her treat when she goes in. Thanks! Barbara
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Angela Burrell wrote 04/16/2008 11:46 AM Re: Puppy Barking [Re: Barbara Fisher ] #190778 - 04/16/2008 11:46 AM
Angela Burrell Webboard User Reg: 05-10-2006 Posts: 2273 Loc: Ontario, Canada Offline	My pup is now 7 months and he is OK in the crate... but not when I take the other dog out. He does the same thing... cries, digs frantically, barks. Be careful with the towel. With my pup, he rips and destroys (and swallows) anything he can reach. I have to take all the bedding out of his crate in the morning and remove anything that might be on top of the crate or over it, for fear of him swallowing pieces. This only happens with the other dog out and him in. When I go to work, as long as the other dog is in his crate too, he's fine. How does your dog do when you leave if the other dog is still there? I have never let him out of his crate when he cries. Maybe our pups have separation anxiety?
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Carol Boche wrote 04/16/2008 12:00 PM Re: Puppy Barking [Re: Angela Burrell ] #190783 - 04/16/2008 12:00 PM
Carol Boche Webboard User Reg: 10-30-2005 Posts: 4531 Loc: South Dakota, USA Offline	Quote: angela burrell Be careful with the towel. With my pup, he rips and destroys (and swallows) anything he can reach. I have to take all the bedding out of his crate in the morning and remove anything that might be on top of the crate or over it, for fear of him swallowing pieces. With wire crates I use a piece of board that is wider than the crate so the towel hangs 3" away from the sides. With the plastic airline crates, I hang it over the front (which there is usually a couple inches between the front of the crate and the wire door is set back a couple inches and not the sides. Until The Tale of the Lioness is told, the Story will Always Glorfy the Hunter
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Angela Burrell wrote 04/16/2008 12:11 PM Re: Puppy Barking [Re: Carol Boche ] #190786 - 04/16/2008 12:11 PM
Angela Burrell Webboard User Reg: 05-10-2006 Posts: 2273 Loc: Ontario, Canada Offline	Oh, that's a good idea. Won't work for me because I don't have the space ( his crate is crammed into a corner and my bed is on the 3rd side) but might work for the OP.
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Barbara Fisher wrote 04/16/2008 02:22 PM Re: Puppy Barking [Re: Angela Burrell ] #190821 - 04/16/2008 02:22 PM
Barbara Fisher Webboard User Reg: 03-24-2008 Posts: 110 Loc: NJ Offline	Quote: Be careful with the towel. With my pup, he rips and destroys (and swallows) anything he can reach. I have to take all the bedding out of his crate in the morning and remove anything that might be on top of the crate or over it, for fear of him swallowing pieces. This only happens with the other dog out and him in. When I go to work, as long as the other dog is in his crate too, he's fine. How does your dog do when you leave if the other dog is still there? Yes, and yes. My puppy does pull things through her wire crate. I have an old large cutting board on top so I can set things on top of it but it is towards the back of the crate, I will have to pull it forward if I try the towel. My puppy is fine when I leave the house or she is crated for quiet time, etc. It is only when I let the other dog out that she goes nutso. I don't think for her, that it is separation anxiety, she can be in the puppy room by herself and is fine. It is basic someone-else-is-getting-something-and-I'm-not. LOL Barbara
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Joan Thomson wrote 04/17/2008 01:38 AM Re: Puppy Barking [Re: Barbara Fisher ] #190948 - 04/17/2008 01:38 AM
Joan Thomson Webboard User Reg: 02-01-2008 Posts: 10 Loc: Australia Offline	I also have a dog that behaves in this manner. Any time that all of my dogs are in their kennels, even though she knows that she will be getting out, just not first, she carries on barking and jumping from one side of her kennel to the other. It really drives me nuts but I won't let her out until she is sitting and quiet. I am thinking of using an e-collar on her just for when she is kenneled because it is so difficut to control especialy first thing in the morning when I am putting them out into their large day runs. She doesn't have separation anxiety she believes that she should be out first.
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Angela Burrell wrote 04/17/2008 11:22 AM Re: Puppy Barking [Re: Joan Thomson ] #190999 - 04/17/2008 11:22 AM
Angela Burrell Webboard User Reg: 05-10-2006 Posts: 2273 Loc: Ontario, Canada Offline	My pup *is* out first. I have walked and fed him, and he can be exhausted. But as soon as that other dog leaves the room out of sight.... howl, whine, cry, dig. Now if I were to leave the other dog in, and just leave and go to work or whatever - he would be fine. My pup believes he should be the ONLY dog out. I also have a 2.5 year old male who does this. He can't stand to be "left behind". (by the other dog(s)). Any suggestions on how to fix this would be great. It's not really separation anxiety, so the usualy remedies for that (mixing signals, leaving for gradually longer periods) wouldnt apply.
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Carol Boche wrote 04/17/2008 01:44 PM Re: Puppy Barking [Re: Joan Thomson ] #191023 - 04/17/2008 01:44 PM
Carol Boche Webboard User Reg: 10-30-2005 Posts: 4531 Loc: South Dakota, USA Offline	Quote: Joan Thomson I also have a dog that behaves in this manner. Any time that all of my dogs are in their kennels, even though she knows that she will be getting out, just not first, she carries on barking and jumping from one side of her kennel to the other. It really drives me nuts but I won't let her out until she is sitting and quiet. I am thinking of using an e-collar on her just for when she is kenneled because it is so difficut to control especialy first thing in the morning when I am putting them out into their large day runs. She doesn't have separation anxiety she believes that she should be out first. Why don't you just use a bark collar if you really cannot stand it, or kennel her away from the others? My dogs do this as well when I am taking another dog out and going to work with them. I just ignore it since I know they are amped up to be with me and go to work. I do not allow it in crates, but the outdoor kennels are different and once I am out of sight they calm down. Until The Tale of the Lioness is told, the Story will Always Glorfy the Hunter
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