Re: Attacking puppy!
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#18396 - 04/30/2003 09:43 AM |
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Darn bouncing back and forth from Mainframe to website, leaves a lot to be deserved.
1st Line: "a lot of taught", should be "a lot of talk.. "
Last line: I think its with either its ok to correct, as long as you distract and praise, afterwards.
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I think its ok to correct unwanted aggression regardless of future plans as long as ....
sorry, back to work.
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Re: Attacking puppy!
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#18397 - 04/30/2003 09:47 AM |
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Darn "deserved" should read "desired". I can spell a little, really I can.
I wish I could edit, my messages.
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Re: Attacking puppy!
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#18398 - 04/30/2003 08:04 PM |
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Don,
thank you for your replies (and the editing <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> )
I'll do as you say - and verbally correct 1st. If this doesn't get his attention, I'll give him a little "pop" on the leash, followed by praise for good behaviour.
Hey!, now I never said that he wouldn't be a PP dog <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />
I'm not so sure that it is a fear thing, because he is such a little tiger!. But I guess that pup's - and especially these little terrors :rolleyes: have quite a quirky nature.
It's something I certainly need to keep an eye on and hopefully nip (get it!!) in the bud <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />
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Re: Attacking puppy!
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#18399 - 05/01/2003 01:57 AM |
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I want to throw in the mix here the fact that you are carrying around your dog in a shoulder bag.
This is BAD BAD BAD. Every little dog I know who gets carried around like that will bite you if you try to pet them. You are elevating his social status by doing this!
In my opinion, your puppy sounds like he is on the way to being a spoiled brat.
Before I set that assessment in stone, take him to the vet for a work up to make sure there isn't a physical problem and he is not biting out of pain.
If your puppy is showing unwanted aggression, repeatedly, then your verbal corrections mean absolutely nothing to him. If he were my puppy, 1 he would be walking everywhere, and 2 he would get a strong scruffing for snapping at anyone, human or dog. Its easy to stop aggression at this age , and now is your window of opportunity before he learns how to be defensive towards corrections (now you have the physical advantage).
Start training your puppy to sit, down, walk on a leash. The treat suggestion is also great, but I would also start some puppy manners with this guy and keep all 4 paws on the ground at all times.
Remember, height is a big factor in elevating dominance, and although your puppy is on the young side to show any kind of rank aggression, you want to prevent it by teaching him his place (on the ground) from the get go. If you wanted a pet to carry around in a bag, you should have gotten a kitten!
Good luck with him, JRTs are amazing little dogs (lot of dog/bark/spunk) in a little package.
As a last resort, if you got him from a good breeder, you should call him/her and discuss this temperament problem. Hopefully you have met at least the mom and know she is not a fear biter...
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Re: Attacking puppy!
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#18400 - 05/01/2003 09:11 PM |
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Michelle,
I appreciate your comments, but please keep in mind that I only carried him around to socialise him PRIOR to him getting his shots! (He could not trot around outside as he had no immunity to parvo etc at that time). This was to acclimatise him as early as possible to the outside environment.
Now, he walks (post shots).
We now attend puppy classes - and he does sit, drop & come.
However, I will stop picking him up - as I agree, this is the possible cause of the problem.
Thanks - and yes, they are great little dogs.
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Re: Attacking puppy!
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#18401 - 05/02/2003 12:08 AM |
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As long as the puppy walks where no dog has urinated or deficated, you don't have to worry about parvo.
For example, I would let my unvaccinated puppy walk in the bank or in the drug store, but not at the local park or beach....
You can talk to your vet about the risk factor in your area, if it is high, then you are right to be careful, but if parvo is rarely diagnosed in your area, I would prefer the puppy to walk himself..
It sounds like he is doing great now, so good luck!
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Re: Attacking puppy!
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#18402 - 05/02/2003 12:22 AM |
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Julie
I've trained and hunted with terriers for years. My present JRT would growl and snarl when my first Grandaughter was picked up by me. Hard correction would only fire him up more. I started giving a treat every time I picked up the Gdaughter. I graduated to having my wife hold the dog on leashwhile I sat on the floor holding the Gdaughter. I ignored any tensing up or growling on the dogs part, but I rewarded ANY interest without aggression. The Gdaughter is now 5yrs old. We have two more in addition to her. The dog LOVES all the Gkids. They have all been taught to respect my dogs and the dogs know the Gkids will always give them a treat. Being little kids, they have gotten rough at times, but the dogs loves it.
I will never totally trust this dog with outside kids, and he is never alone with my Gkids. I bought my dog because of having hunted with both of his parents, and all of his grand parents. His mother, although a good hunter, was a flake. Guess what? I've got a great hunting dog that is a flake.
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Re: Attacking puppy!
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#18403 - 05/02/2003 12:52 PM |
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Michelle wrote-You are elevating his social status by doing this! In my opinion, your puppy sounds like he is on the way to being a spoiled brat.
Don's reply
I would have never thought rank at 13 weeks, but that could be his problem, JRT are cocky little dogs anyway and most people spoli them.
What I like about Julie is that she seems to know waht she has, JRT are not like Eddie on Fraiser where they sit still for 15 minutes and shake their head yes and no and sip champange .
:rolleyes:
Most JRT are like miniture Dobermanns always on the move and they need training. They are not hand fed bacon and egg dogs like miniture poodles, they might bite the hand that babying them, just in fun. You push them away rough and they come back at cha, not sulk and drop their head. I was not kinding when I called him a terror, a many of JRT have found themself up for adoption, because older (and young) people see Eddie and the lame ex-cop grand dad and think I want a dog like that. He so well mannered and cute, without training JRT are not well mannered, they can be terrors, because they have so much enegry.
I don't really care for most mini me dogs, but the JRT is a impressive K9, if only he were bigger. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />
Bob what is a flake JRT? One that don't jump and turn flips in the air to get you to laugh? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />
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Re: Attacking puppy!
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#18404 - 05/04/2003 08:25 PM |
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Hi again - and thanks for the additional replies & thoughts.
I know that JRT's need a firm hand, or the little blighters will walk all over you <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />
I have read about the puppy fear stage, could this be something to do with that??
He is now going through a phase of not liking getting into & out of the car (which previously didn't bother him).
He's a bit of a whiner & may well have a bit of temperament problem (can't really tell, as our older female was like that, but has turned out to be really great!).
We passed puppy school & have signed up for intermediate classes. I'm hoping that the ob training will boost his confidence, if that's what the problem may be.
Will let you know how we get on.
Many thanks
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