Connie Sutherland wrote 09/10/2008 10:15 AM Re: Dog lunges at us when closing crate door. [Re: Heidi Neal ] #209105 - 09/10/2008 10:15 AM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	Quote: Heidi Neal We have an eleven month old Lowchen that has some aggressive/dominance issues. We have had a personal trainer and we have had some improvement in his behavior. What were the trainer's recommendations (exactly)?
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Heidi Neal wrote 09/10/2008 11:13 AM Re: Dog lunges at us when closing crate door. [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #209118 - 09/10/2008 11:13 AM
Heidi Neal Webboard User Reg: 08-31-2008 Posts: 7 Loc: Offline	With the trainer we worked mostly on general obedience. For food aggression he suggested to put one piece at a time into his bowl. The crate aggression he suggested the squirt bottle or blow a whistle and throw a rolled up towel at the crate. This has not worked.
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lee sternberg wrote 09/10/2008 12:01 PM Re: Dog lunges at us when closing crate door. [Re: Heidi Neal ] #209123 - 09/10/2008 12:01 PM
lee sternberg Webboard User Reg: 08-05-2007 Posts: 323 Loc: Lake City, Coeur d' Alene, ID Offline	I'm no expert but I think throwing a rolled up towel at the crate would have the opposite effect and agitate the dog even more. Lee Sternberg
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Heidi Neal wrote 09/10/2008 12:23 PM Re: Dog lunges at us when closing crate door. [Re: lee sternberg ] #209124 - 09/10/2008 12:23 PM
Heidi Neal Webboard User Reg: 08-31-2008 Posts: 7 Loc: Offline	Lee, You are correct. We gave up on this approach. We have also been told to pull him out of his crate and give him a good shake. This hasn't worked either. It is such odd behavior that he seems to like his crate but touching the door makes him bonkers. I read the discussion that was linked here. Does anyone know what the outcome was with that dog?
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Jennifer Mullen wrote 09/10/2008 12:30 PM Re: Dog lunges at us when closing crate door. [Re: Heidi Neal ] #209126 - 09/10/2008 12:30 PM
Jennifer Mullen Webboard User Reg: 08-16-2007 Posts: 2365 Loc: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Offline	i read that whole thread earlier today but don't remember....was just thinking, marker training has been mentioned, but i wonder if you could use marker/clicker training to desensitize him to touching the door? connie???? is that silly? i just feel like i've read about it being used to work on dogs with weird reactions to certain objects. Teagan!
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Debbie Bruce wrote 09/10/2008 01:31 PM Re: Dog lunges at us when closing crate door. [Re: Jennifer Mullen ] #209136 - 09/10/2008 01:31 PM
Debbie Bruce Webboard User Reg: 08-23-2007 Posts: 1196 Loc: Centralia, Missouri Offline	Tethering him to you is going to be a very important key to establishing your alpha position with this dog. I like to use a 4 foot leash with a double ended snap hooked on my belt loop. You move-he moves, you stay-he stays. When he goes in his crate throw a treat in the back so that his butt, not his lunging front end, is at the door when you close it.
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Aaron Myracle wrote 09/10/2008 02:01 PM Re: Dog lunges at us when closing crate door. [Re: Jennifer Mullen ] #209139 - 09/10/2008 02:01 PM
Aaron Myracle Webboard User Reg: 06-06-2008 Posts: 5062 Loc: WA, USA Offline	Quote: Jennifer Mullen i read that whole thread earlier today but don't remember....was just thinking, marker training has been mentioned, but i wonder if you could use marker/clicker training to desensitize him to touching the door? connie???? is that silly? i just feel like i've read about it being used to work on dogs with weird reactions to certain objects. IMO, it would depend upon the reason for the behavior. It would work like a charm in a lot of situations, for sure. It just depends on the dog, and the reason it's doing this.
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Jennifer Mullen wrote 09/10/2008 02:49 PM Re: Dog lunges at us when closing crate door. [Re: Aaron Myracle ] #209145 - 09/10/2008 02:49 PM
Jennifer Mullen Webboard User Reg: 08-16-2007 Posts: 2365 Loc: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Offline	that makes sense alyssa i have a memory of connie listing some marker stuff for a dog who had a bad reaction (i think fear) to phones....couldn't find anything searching of course. Teagan!
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Heidi Neal wrote 09/10/2008 03:50 PM Re: Dog lunges at us when closing crate door. [Re: Jennifer Mullen ] #209167 - 09/10/2008 03:50 PM
Heidi Neal Webboard User Reg: 08-31-2008 Posts: 7 Loc: Offline	Thanks everyone for all of your replys. On a lot of forums new people are ignored. I have thrown some very tasty treats in the back of his crate, chicken or steak. He willingly walks into his crate then he will ignore the treat to lunge and snarl.
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Matthew Thurston wrote 09/10/2008 05:08 PM Re: Dog lunges at us when closing crate door. [Re: Heidi Neal ] #209178 - 09/10/2008 05:08 PM
Matthew Thurston Webboard User Reg: 12-14-2007 Posts: 262 Loc: Kentucky Offline	I personally would look else where for a trainer/behaviorist. I hear a lot of very similar things from people who have no idea what they are doing. Bravo Vom Buchonia
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