 Re: umm RAW question
[Re: Anna McEntire ]
#210023 - 09/18/2008 06:46 AM |
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I got necks and backs for 18c/lb from a meat market in 20lb cases.
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Re: umm RAW question
[Re: Anna McEntire ]
#210035 - 09/18/2008 10:03 AM |
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With the whole fryers, there's not too much meat to bone? And if you're tossing fat off the back, is it advisable to strip the fat blobs from the whole bird?
No. If anything I would say that you could still add some meat.
You've gotta' figure ALL of the parts that are missing from a whole, DRESSED chicken. There are a lot of non-bone pieces missing. All the organs, brains, eyes, blood, etc. That is quite a bit of flesh that isn't there.
On the fryer hens that I get there is still a glob of fat that I remove, but it is nowhere near what I get off a back or neck alone. It isn't a huge excess of fat in relation to the meat and bone that a whole bird has vs. a back or neck. That make sense?
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Re: umm RAW question
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#210038 - 09/18/2008 10:25 AM |
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There are a lot of non-bone pieces missing. All the ... brains... That is quite a bit of flesh that isn't there.
Michael
I think you are overestimating the size of a chicken brain. 
I would agree that more meat could be added, but keep in mind that the guts have a high water content, so I wouldn't add very much meat. As always, let the poop be your guide.
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Re: umm RAW question
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#210039 - 09/18/2008 10:29 AM |
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I try to strip them down as best I can while separating into ziplock bags for freezing. I see the fat as money down the drain when it goes into the garbage like that.
You could save the fat to feed in the winter. The dogs will have a higher energy requirement to stay warm.
You could also just feed them the fat now (assuming they don't get loose stools) and just cut back on their total portions.
Dogs use fats like we use carbs.
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Re: umm RAW question
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#210042 - 09/18/2008 10:52 AM |
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Fat seems to add lubricant, without which my dog seems to become constipated at times.
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Re: umm RAW question
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#210047 - 09/18/2008 11:05 AM |
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is it advisable to strip the fat blobs from the whole bird?
My bad. By "blobs", I thought we were talking about excessive amounts of fat. There are a lot of non-bone pieces missing. All the ... brains... That is quite a bit of flesh that isn't there.
Michael
I think you are overestimating the size of a chicken brain.
LOL! I think you missed the rest off the ...quote...:smile:
I was trying to point out that there is MORE than enough bone in a whole, dressed bird.
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Re: umm RAW question
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#210058 - 09/18/2008 12:18 PM |
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but keep in mind that the guts have a high water content
Wouldn't this be true of the rest of the chicken, too? 
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Re: umm RAW question
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#210079 - 09/18/2008 01:10 PM |
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The slurry flowing through the intestines in very watery. The water is only removed at the very end of the journey.
But would the blood in the tissues increase the water content of those tissues to match the intestines and contents?
Hmmm...Is this a specific gravity question, or a biology question?
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Re: umm RAW question
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#210307 - 09/19/2008 10:08 PM |
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WOW thanks guys!! Tons of info!! I think I'm ready to go to the store and start slowly. I think I'm going to do some shopping, and refer back to this thread.
I like the idea of buying whole bird but I need to ease myself into blood and guts. I plan on getting a few pre-cut animals and will wait a few weeks to turn my kitchen into a butcher shop 
As far as the sheep is concerned they're all out of meat right now, but they will be culling in a month or two. I think I will put in some special orders. We have a pretty good relationship, as I've been buying meat from them all summer (about 10 times) I mostly buy dog meat, but will sometimes buy a steak, or nice cut for myself...YUM!!!!
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Re: umm RAW question
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#210312 - 09/19/2008 10:22 PM |
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I like the idea of buying whole bird but I need to ease myself into blood and guts. I plan on getting a few pre-cut animals and will wait a few weeks to turn my kitchen into a butcher shop
It'll be a good way for you to get used to what meat:bone looks like.
It will also be a good intro to blood and guts, as a dressed bird from the grocery store is rather tame in the gore department. If you aren't used to meat it will probably feel slimey and such, but it isn't that bad. You'll be a pro in no time.:smile:
Good luck, and let us know how it goes. Do post back with any questions, too.
I wanted to add that there is a dog that lives about 1/2 mile down the road from me that could be your dog's sister. They look almost identical.:smile: I think there is another dog on the board that looks similar, too. Funny!:grin;
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