Quote: Alyssa Myracle

If a food, like a turkey thigh is more meat than bone, then it becomes less RMB and more muscle meat. Striving for a balance in RMB to muscle, it may be necssary to toss in a neck to get the RMB ratio back up.

I can't think of any grocery store RMB's that would require any more bone added.

There is a very good breakdown of bone %'s in products that would be available to us in a grocery store on the net somewhere. I will look for it and post back when I find it.

http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/foodcomp/search/

Type the word "raw" after whatever you are searching for....Voila!

At the top of the page it will give you bone %'s.

Even a bone-in chicken breast has 20% bone.

Ronald, someone already said it, but feed for good poop. Not too hard, not too soft.

I don't think you will have to add any X-tra bone to a food item that already contains bone in the first place.

 Quote: alyssa myracle

To clarify (I sometimes smoke crack in the mornings)

"Crack: When a pot of coffee just won't do the trick"

Thanks for all the help, one more question. Roscoe seems to be having a hard time pooping with only half of the amount from week ago. He strains hard and seems to take longer with not much there. Also I noticed that his left uppper canine is brown, both upper ones look like they are worn through. What should I do? If anybody is reading today have a great Thanksgiving!!!!

Ron

Ron,

Raw-fed dogs typically have smaller, harder poop and a lot less of it. When you switch their diet it's not unusual to see them taking a little longer. If you feel he's a bit constipated you can try giving him 1-2 tablespoons of pure canned pumpkin (not sweetened pumpkin pie filling) and that should help soften his stool a bit.

Keep an eye on poop color... yellow, dry, powdery poop means you're feeding too much bone, which can be constipating. Normal poop on a raw diet is light brown.

Happy Thanksgiving to you!

Ironically, (because of this thread) it sounds to me like too much bone in the diet. That will create a dry, almost crumbly dropping and they tend to be tough to get out. Honestly, I would add a little more meat and cut back a tad on the bone. Perhaps, as Sarah said, even ad a little pumpkin.

I don’t know what you fed last week, how long you have been on raw, or the age of your dog, but it is normal for there to be less waste coming from a raw fed dog vs. a kibble fed dog. It is actually an amazing difference! If the dog has been on raw and is still having smaller movements, it would not be a concern, as long as you are feeding the appropriate amount and the dog looks to be in good weight.

The coments about the teeth lead me to believe that the dog is older. If the dog has not been on raw long, then don’t worry overly about the brown, it will go away with time. If it is REALLY bad, you may want to take him in for a cleaning. As to the worn canines, this happens with age (and forgive me if the dog is very young) and there is no way to fix it. However, the dog does not eat with his canines; they are for catching and holding. As long as the back teeth are in good condition, you may feed as normal. I would stay away from recreational chewing bone for this dog however. Enjoy your turkey tonight!

 Quote: Ronald Friesen

Also I noticed that his left uppper canine is brown, both upper ones look like they are worn through. What should I do? If anybody is reading today have a great Thanksgiving!!!!
Ron

Can you get us a picture of the teeth?

Is it not tarter?

 Quote: JessicaKromer

Ironically, (because of this thread) it sounds to me like too much bone in the diet.

That's kinda what I was thinkin', too.

You can feed a small meal of muscle meat (no bone) and see if that resolves the poop problem. If it does, then you know there was a little too much bone before.

As mentioned, a picture of the tooth would be helpful (a link to the picture, on a Photobucket-type account).

The shade (yellowish-brown or grayish-brown) is a clue, as well as the shape of the discolored part.

Roscoe is 15 1/2 weeks now I have been feeding him Innova since I got him from 8 weeks to 14 1/2. Have now swithced to raw chicken and turkey. I gave hom some leftover turkey this morning w/o bones. Both his front canines are worn down in front. He has always wanted to chew on the concrete and bricks in front of our house and we have stopped him whenever we catch him. His left canine is yellowish-brown and looks like it is worn down to a hollow area. I hope this link works for a picture. Thanks Ron
http://s438.photobucket.com/albums/qq110/RonaldF_photo/Roscoe/